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Flabbergasted

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32. Contrast your question here with your statement in 13.

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:53 PM

Dec 2012

The weight of "evidence" is as much a subjective tyrant as faith. It all comes down to core beliefs.

For example, although I'm an atheist, I strongly disagree with the contention that the universe is rational. There is far less evidence to support this position than is supposed and often the objectiveness that is assumed is not.

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3 universal truths all religions agree upon: [View all] Odin2005 Dec 2012 OP

It's also agreed upon by a lot of non-believers. cbayer Dec 2012 #1

Non-believers base their convictions skepticscott Dec 2012 #2

You are joking...right? Liberal Jesus Freak Dec 2012 #4

You know plenty? skepticscott Dec 2012 #7

So, are you suggesting that atheists Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #11

I'm saying that skepticscott Dec 2012 #13

voice, you noticed that too? His op matches him too. Just delete religion roguevalley Dec 2012 #23

All believers have been non-believers. Liberal Jesus Freak Dec 2012 #15

Not while they've been truly cognizant of the skepticscott Dec 2012 #17

this is a zero sum argument. it is your observations against roguevalley Dec 2012 #22

If you really think that "nothing changes" skepticscott Dec 2012 #24

Contrast your question here with your statement in 13. Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #32

The weight of evidence says that skepticscott Dec 2012 #33

Everyone agrees with you. You're not going to find a belief system Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #37

Wrong again, but thanks for playing skepticscott Jan 2013 #38

"Atheists...do not have a position that needs either "support" or "faith"? Another way of saying Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #44

You just can't stop getting things wrong, can you? skepticscott Jan 2013 #45

Fine atheism is lack of evidence Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #47

Dismissive? Wow skepticscott Jan 2013 #48

I answered the question... Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #50

I'm so glad you're not trying to be negative, since even when you're being positive skepticscott Jan 2013 #63

Scott...For "Christ's Sake" go back and read your comments.... Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #67

An abundance of evidence skepticscott Jan 2013 #68

The reference to Christ was supposed to provide irony... Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #69

No, you're not obligated to "honor" anything skepticscott Jan 2013 #70

Scott I'm not making this up... Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #71

The Christians aren't making this up either skepticscott Jan 2013 #72

Did you notice use of the word intuited? Look it up... Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #73

I'll just leave the sane people reading with these quotes skepticscott Jan 2013 #74

Did you look that word up yet Scott. :) Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #75

If you cannot see, smell, hear, taste, or touch something then it probably doesn't exist. That humblebum Jan 2013 #54

whatever. Personally, my spirit and soul are independent of religion roguevalley Dec 2012 #21

LOL! Non believers are ALL big thinkers, right? Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #27

As a non-believer Shadowflash Dec 2012 #3

Oh, stick around. You will see it here and all over the internet, if you have missed it IRL. cbayer Dec 2012 #5

hey I have imaginary friends Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #9

Lol. Please take no offense. I offered this only as an example, not as a belief. cbayer Dec 2012 #10

Imaginary friends are the best, they've kept me company through thick and thin. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #12

I had one for several years as a child. cbayer Dec 2012 #14

Do you remember tama Jan 2013 #58

I don't really remember much. cbayer Jan 2013 #60

Consensus realities tama Jan 2013 #62

Pocke? Thats my opinion Jan 2013 #64

That sounds just about right. cbayer Jan 2013 #65

I wonder, had your family supported and ecouraged your continued belief in your imaginary friend... cleanhippie Jan 2013 #66

Differences tama Jan 2013 #78

You've called creationists "dumbasses." trotsky Dec 2012 #16

Not better in any sense? tama Jan 2013 #41

Well... Shadowflash Jan 2013 #42

Great! tama Jan 2013 #43

If you'll look at the OP, okasha Jan 2013 #56

Well said. Jim__ Jan 2013 #57

If only our weenies were as big as yours. :( trotsky Jan 2013 #59

Agree. It's kind of funny that some can't see that. cbayer Jan 2013 #61

One universal truth for all humankind: Salviati Dec 2012 #6

But those aren't universal truths Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #8

well said rodstewart552se Dec 2012 #20

Agreed Promethean Dec 2012 #35

Buddhism and Taoism certainly do not believe that. There are for sure others Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #18

Depends on the Buddhist sect. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #19

Well at least he told them to stop. That's progress. white_wolf Dec 2012 #34

You forgot: "Give us Money" _ed_ Dec 2012 #25

+1000 nt abelenkpe Jan 2013 #51

Well, the OP is pure bullshit. I guess the author knows nothing of most religions. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #26

"that hateful shit" is built into the major religions mr blur Dec 2012 #29

You're talking about individuals. The OP was talking about the entire religion. Big difference. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #30

That's pretty much just some forms of Christianity and Islam Recursion Dec 2012 #28

Hebrews are Abrahamic as well. Promethean Dec 2012 #36

"Conservative" and "Reform" Judaism do not claim to be the right answer for everyone, either. meti57b Jan 2013 #40

The truth will set you free. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #31

Come into today's real world Thats my opinion Jan 2013 #39

I decry religious people who think atheists can't be moral or ethical without religion. trotsky Jan 2013 #46

Being and behaving tama Jan 2013 #55

Bullshit. The only thing you have tried to do is take the same old turd and polish it up. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #49

When were you last in "today's real world"? mr blur Jan 2013 #52

Number Four bongbong Jan 2013 #53

Not all. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #76

Nope, sorry, Paganism doesn't go that way nor do they ask for money Hestia Jan 2013 #77