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In reply to the discussion: "Other ways of knowing," aka Different Cognitive Styles [View all]NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)81. Where else are they to turn?
To the shamanistic traditions that civilizations has eradicated, due to their non-conducive nature that conflict's with the goals of modern man? Or to the familiar, culturally acceptable church down the street that has canned theodicies to explain the people's suffering--previously ruled as benign or beneficial for growing the machine?
The popularity of a belief is more indicitive of its acceptable nature to civilization than its truth (refer to the logical fallacy of appealing to popularity).
I think it is a meaningful, natural human experience for many, many people
Religious spiritiuality may be meaningful, but I seriously doubt that it allows people to have unadulturated, unfiltered experiences that impart the intended knowledge onto the individual; rather, it will reinterpret the knowledge according to the bounds of the religion (which is bounded by the containing culture).
What has manifested from religion is a civilization on the precipice of disaster from ecological breakdown, despite its experiences and knowledge of its adherents. We live in the complete antithesis of what is advocated by simpler, shamanistic experiences that civilization has widely rejected. Sure, religious experience may be meaningful, and even useful insofar as the lessons advance the goals of civilization. But those goals may very well be contradictory to the intended, raw meaning of the experiences and leading to our impending extinction (or evolutionary bottleneck).
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If you recognize the condition, how can you continue to suffer from it without being equally insane?
NoOneMan
Dec 2012
#56
The possibility that something is true has no relation to the number of people who believe it.
trotsky
Dec 2012
#46
So then, if one juror thinks a defendant is guilty, he's guilty, but if all 12 say he's not guilty,
humblebum
Dec 2012
#47
Never said it did. But I did say that there was a higher probability of guilt
humblebum
Dec 2012
#83
In terms of their adaptational advantage, for humans, being part of a tribe could be critical.
cbayer
Dec 2012
#77
It is interesting that those most discriminated against or who suffer the most have
cbayer
Dec 2012
#79
The two examples you chose actually illustrate two disjoint sets of "knowing".
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#3
"fails to respond to challenges to describe in detail these 'other ways of knowing'" - still
humblebum
Dec 2012
#10
Don't make me laugh. The subject has been covered and examples given ad nauseam as
humblebum
Jan 2013
#91
Where do you get the idea that there is no theology associated with Native American
humblebum
Jan 2013
#97
Agreed, though all of us came from tribal cultures similar in many ways to those
humblebum
Jan 2013
#101
There does seem to be some equivocation regarding what constitutes theology.
humblebum
Jan 2013
#109
Again, there does seem to be an ambiguity here. I hardly see theology as related solely
humblebum
Jan 2013
#117
I find Curtis' explanations, to be simplistic and demeaning to human variety, but your last....
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2012
#80
basically you are claiming that reality is determined by popular vote, which is the most idiotic...
cleanhippie
Jan 2013
#85
Learn about things before spouting off about them otherwise you come off...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2013
#124
He seems to know exactly what he talking about and what he is talking about IS taught
humblebum
Jan 2013
#125
A problem with your example, the word "pretty" is itself subjective...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2013
#129
He argues that the art student must rely on intuitive rather than rational information processing ..
AlbertCat
Jan 2013
#89
rely on parts of your brain that do not depend on such "rational" divisions.
AlbertCat
Jan 2013
#112
May I suggest that you try to draw a rounded object using 1- or 2-point perspective?
okasha
Jan 2013
#118