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cbayer

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19. A lot like lumping all atheists together. Or theists. Or even subgroups within those

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:57 PM

Jan 2013

groups.

That's what polling and some scientific studies do.

In most of these surveys, there is an option to identify as atheist/agnostic/non-believer. It is the group that identifies as "none" or "unaffiliated" that that this addresses.

The question is not, however, "are you religious". It is, "what group do you affiliate with". As noted in the article, some atheists/agnostics don't want to be affiliated with the group name for whatever reason.

If it is of no use to you, just ignore it.

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None Means None (Not Atheist, Agnostic, Unbeliever...) [View all] cbayer Jan 2013 OP

I don't get the difference between that and agnostic NoOneMan Jan 2013 #1

Here's my take. trotsky Jan 2013 #3

Nail, meet hammer. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #20

While agnostics may be included in the category, the answer "none" is in response to the cbayer Jan 2013 #4

"So it includes all kinds of people, some of whom are self-identified theists." NoOneMan Jan 2013 #14

Not at all. The statistical breakdown of the group that all themselves nones cbayer Jan 2013 #15

This silliness makes me think we need to eliminate all the boxes NoOneMan Jan 2013 #16

Disagree. This is a fascinating group that is growing rapidly. cbayer Jan 2013 #17

Its about as useful as grouping all blondes together NoOneMan Jan 2013 #18

A lot like lumping all atheists together. Or theists. Or even subgroups within those cbayer Jan 2013 #19

Yes, it is of no use to me whatsoever NoOneMan Jan 2013 #21

See, that's the thing. Not all theists believe in cbayer Jan 2013 #23

Then maybe they aren't "Theists" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #28

You are right, I don't particularly care about the particulars of their belief structure. cbayer Jan 2013 #30

In that case, NoOneMan Jan 2013 #35

You can ask whatever you want in a survey, and I suspect that the "none" category cbayer Jan 2013 #44

I'd prefer not to be grouped with atheists even NoOneMan Jan 2013 #45

On the other hand, when a group becomes to large and heterogenous, it could indicate cbayer Jan 2013 #47

Kinda like political parties? trotsky Jan 2013 #56

Come on tama Jan 2013 #25

Read books, repeat quotations, draw conclusions on the wall. NoOneMan Jan 2013 #32

What use? tama Jan 2013 #33

Why is not thinking about religion "intellectually lazy"? brooklynite Jan 2013 #8

Why is not thinking about relevant matters intellectually lazy? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #12

I've never asked "why am I here"... brooklynite Jan 2013 #22

You just listed a lot of premises NoOneMan Jan 2013 #24

Ah! Time for philosophical woo... brooklynite Jan 2013 #40

So I think you contradicted yourself... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #41

Which tree are you? tama Jan 2013 #31

The Elder NoOneMan Jan 2013 #34

Which Elder? tama Jan 2013 #36

That seems like a trick question NoOneMan Jan 2013 #39

Of course tama Jan 2013 #43

This says I'm a Reed, okasha Jan 2013 #37

Mesquite sounds very admirable tree tama Jan 2013 #42

I'm a birch - the description is not that flattering, but probably quite accurate. cbayer Jan 2013 #46

Birches are beautiful tama Jan 2013 #48

Thank you for that, tama. cbayer Jan 2013 #49

Agnostic seems to be a hedge to me... Politicub Jan 2013 #51

What the hell "cultural baggage" do agnostics have? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #52

None seems to be a new state of being Politicub Jan 2013 #53

Basically, everything... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #54

Probably so. But it does happen. Politicub Jan 2013 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jan 2013 #58

I am an atheist and a none. longship Jan 2013 #2

You and a rapidly growing number of people. cbayer Jan 2013 #6

Indeed! Let the games begin... longship Jan 2013 #9

I think you represent a growing population, longship. cbayer Jan 2013 #10

I don't care enough to be an atheist. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #5

Agree with you about the labels. cbayer Jan 2013 #7

Why are you forcing a label on someone when you just decried the behavior? trotsky Jan 2013 #11

Do you mean like labeling creationists as "dumbasses" ? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #13

Interesting. okasha Jan 2013 #26

It all comes down to tribalistic teams sometimes, doesn't it? cbayer Jan 2013 #27

Teams, definitely. okasha Jan 2013 #29

Like someone feeling outrage over an issue tama Jan 2013 #38

I think "religously apatheic" would describe me SpartanDem Jan 2013 #55

Even the nones fall into one of the other categories. JoeyT Jan 2013 #50

None does not refer to knowing or not knowing or believing or not believing. cbayer Jan 2013 #59