Religion

NoOneMan

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21. Yes, it is of no use to me whatsoever

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:02 PM

Jan 2013

When you start lumping those who believe in a specific deity like an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God (theistic conception) with people who have committed to a belief that Gods absolutely do not exist, then you are actively engaging in pointless nonsense that I will ignore.

on edit: though, I think your entire premise and the None propaganda is just wishful, bullshit thinking that doesn't reflect what is actually happening.

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None Means None (Not Atheist, Agnostic, Unbeliever...) [View all] cbayer Jan 2013 OP

I don't get the difference between that and agnostic NoOneMan Jan 2013 #1

Here's my take. trotsky Jan 2013 #3

Nail, meet hammer. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #20

While agnostics may be included in the category, the answer "none" is in response to the cbayer Jan 2013 #4

"So it includes all kinds of people, some of whom are self-identified theists." NoOneMan Jan 2013 #14

Not at all. The statistical breakdown of the group that all themselves nones cbayer Jan 2013 #15

This silliness makes me think we need to eliminate all the boxes NoOneMan Jan 2013 #16

Disagree. This is a fascinating group that is growing rapidly. cbayer Jan 2013 #17

Its about as useful as grouping all blondes together NoOneMan Jan 2013 #18

A lot like lumping all atheists together. Or theists. Or even subgroups within those cbayer Jan 2013 #19

Yes, it is of no use to me whatsoever NoOneMan Jan 2013 #21

See, that's the thing. Not all theists believe in cbayer Jan 2013 #23

Then maybe they aren't "Theists" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #28

You are right, I don't particularly care about the particulars of their belief structure. cbayer Jan 2013 #30

In that case, NoOneMan Jan 2013 #35

You can ask whatever you want in a survey, and I suspect that the "none" category cbayer Jan 2013 #44

I'd prefer not to be grouped with atheists even NoOneMan Jan 2013 #45

On the other hand, when a group becomes to large and heterogenous, it could indicate cbayer Jan 2013 #47

Kinda like political parties? trotsky Jan 2013 #56

Come on tama Jan 2013 #25

Read books, repeat quotations, draw conclusions on the wall. NoOneMan Jan 2013 #32

What use? tama Jan 2013 #33

Why is not thinking about religion "intellectually lazy"? brooklynite Jan 2013 #8

Why is not thinking about relevant matters intellectually lazy? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #12

I've never asked "why am I here"... brooklynite Jan 2013 #22

You just listed a lot of premises NoOneMan Jan 2013 #24

Ah! Time for philosophical woo... brooklynite Jan 2013 #40

So I think you contradicted yourself... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #41

Which tree are you? tama Jan 2013 #31

The Elder NoOneMan Jan 2013 #34

Which Elder? tama Jan 2013 #36

That seems like a trick question NoOneMan Jan 2013 #39

Of course tama Jan 2013 #43

This says I'm a Reed, okasha Jan 2013 #37

Mesquite sounds very admirable tree tama Jan 2013 #42

I'm a birch - the description is not that flattering, but probably quite accurate. cbayer Jan 2013 #46

Birches are beautiful tama Jan 2013 #48

Thank you for that, tama. cbayer Jan 2013 #49

Agnostic seems to be a hedge to me... Politicub Jan 2013 #51

What the hell "cultural baggage" do agnostics have? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #52

None seems to be a new state of being Politicub Jan 2013 #53

Basically, everything... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #54

Probably so. But it does happen. Politicub Jan 2013 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jan 2013 #58

I am an atheist and a none. longship Jan 2013 #2

You and a rapidly growing number of people. cbayer Jan 2013 #6

Indeed! Let the games begin... longship Jan 2013 #9

I think you represent a growing population, longship. cbayer Jan 2013 #10

I don't care enough to be an atheist. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #5

Agree with you about the labels. cbayer Jan 2013 #7

Why are you forcing a label on someone when you just decried the behavior? trotsky Jan 2013 #11

Do you mean like labeling creationists as "dumbasses" ? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #13

Interesting. okasha Jan 2013 #26

It all comes down to tribalistic teams sometimes, doesn't it? cbayer Jan 2013 #27

Teams, definitely. okasha Jan 2013 #29

Like someone feeling outrage over an issue tama Jan 2013 #38

I think "religously apatheic" would describe me SpartanDem Jan 2013 #55

Even the nones fall into one of the other categories. JoeyT Jan 2013 #50

None does not refer to knowing or not knowing or believing or not believing. cbayer Jan 2013 #59