While I don't care enough about what you write to even read it, the sort of personal attack you leveled cannot stand. I never said, nor do i believe that atheists could not be moral without a religious framework. I believe religion at its best has helped base culture on a ethical basis. And at times that input has been negative and destructive in the extreme. And I would not want to live in a society without that positive basis, as I would not want to live in a culture without a moral basis that flows from a non religious commitment,. Neither would I want to live in a culture controlled by any religion that did not have solidly withln its ethical framework the corrective that only agnostics and atheists have provided. They have and do keep all sorts of theists honest.
For the umpteeth time, for you to drag out a statement I made three years ago which you continually purposefully distort, says more about you than it does about anything I have said. Furthermore your post has nothing to do with this interesting thread, in which I have not been involved--except to read. It is a sourball you just need to throw in from time to time. Get over it. Very few here care any more. Most posters here have grown beyond that sort of sniping. It's boring.
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