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Ian David

(69,059 posts)
31. Does anyone remember the dude who was able to fake being a savant?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jan 2013

He was in a mental hospital or something, and he fooled the entire staff into thinking he was a piano virtuoso, but in reality he was just hitting one key over and over again.

Even today, with the right banter and context, large groups of people can be fooled by simple tricks.


Edited to add:

Here it is. I found it:

Andreas Grassl
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Andreas Grassl (born 25 October 1984) is a German man found in England in April 2005, who remained unidentified for a long time due to his refusal to speak, communicating instead through drawing and playing the piano. During the more than four months that passed until he revealed his identity, the mysterious story spawned media attention and speculation across the world, dubbing him the Piano Man.

When Grassl was picked up by police on 7 April 2005, he was wandering the streets in Sheerness, Kent, in England, wearing a soaking wet suit and tie, and he did not answer any questions. Remaining silent, he was presented a pen and paper by Medway Maritime Hospital staff in the hope he would write his name. Instead, he drew a detailed sketch of a grand piano. When they first brought him to a piano, he reportedly played music from various genres (ranging from classical music by Tchaikovsky to pop music by The Beatles) non-stop for four hours, and then was taken away by the hospital staff.

<snip>

On 22 August, the British tabloid newspaper The Mirror reported that the Piano Man had finally broken his silence after more than four months, and that he had been exposed as a hoax. Additionally, the Mirror's source claimed that he did not play the piano properly, but "just kept tapping one key continuously." Hospital staff have maintained that his abilities were not exaggerated.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Grassl

Also:

Piano Man Was a Hoax
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/piano_man_was_a_hoax

Is it the same god that told Rick Santorum to run for President? Scuba Jan 2013 #1
Yes. Iggo Jan 2013 #65
Instead of arson maybe she could have tried killing her child. Shadowflash Jan 2013 #2
To answer your question, consult the DSM. rug Jan 2013 #3
Does one need to consult the DSM when someone claims that god told them to feed the poor? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #11
No, but it's advisable when one commits arson. rug Jan 2013 #18
Arson because god told them to or just because they set a fire? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #20
Arson is prima facie evidence of disorder. rug Jan 2013 #22
Are you understanding the bigger point I am making? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #23
The OP brought up arson, not me. rug Jan 2013 #24
I don't know how to be more clear without quibbling over minutiae. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #37
It would be clearer if you answered the question I put to you. rug Jan 2013 #48
I think it would be clearer if we could agree on this point. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #49
First it is necessary to answer the question in #24. rug Jan 2013 #50
When talking about the motivation behind and act, does it matter? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #52
Of course it does. rug Jan 2013 #54
Not at all, but you seem to be trying to pigeonhole me into a corner for some reason. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #55
We agree then, strictly speaking. rug Jan 2013 #56
Excellent. So we are on the same side when it comes to religious belief being worthless as cleanhippie Jan 2013 #57
Hardly. rug Jan 2013 #58
You say "hardly", then agree with me? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #59
Did you miss this? rug Jan 2013 #60
I thought we had moved beyond the OP, as we agreed on that premise? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #61
In that case, feel free to start a thread. This topic doesn't flow from the OP. rug Jan 2013 #62
Fair enough, but I feel like we have reached agreement beyond the OP. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #63
Not so tama Jan 2013 #66
I think you're dealing skepticscott Jan 2013 #25
Since when is commiting arson skepticscott Jan 2013 #34
I said disorder, not mental disorder. rug Jan 2013 #47
Mental disorders were the only ones being discussed skepticscott Jan 2013 #51
Feel free to add words to posts whenever it helps your point. rug Jan 2013 #53
So is claiming that a god told you to do something. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #43
As an imam of my acquaintance once said, Berlin Expat Jan 2013 #4
Apparently not... orwell Jan 2013 #5
I think Pat Berlin Expat Jan 2013 #8
You seem to have little tolerance for people's deeply held religious beliefs. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #12
Fair enough, Berlin Expat Jan 2013 #14
Fine line indeed, EvilAL Jan 2013 #45
It sounds like in this case god is a threat to people Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #15
We all make judgments all the time... orwell Jan 2013 #17
True. However, in the case of "god told me to", there seems to be a double standard. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #21
What is the process by which one determines whether that voice is just in one's head, trotsky Jan 2013 #6
That's a tough call. Berlin Expat Jan 2013 #7
So the ability to perform miraculous acts is the only sure sign... trotsky Jan 2013 #9
Speaking as an average Berlin Expat Jan 2013 #13
Not exactly proof. trotsky Jan 2013 #19
"Behold, for I have summoned images of adorable kittens in the palm of my hand! Worship me! Ian David Jan 2013 #30
Exactly! trotsky Jan 2013 #35
Well, at that point Berlin Expat Jan 2013 #36
So basically, you admit there's no way to know whether god is speaking to someone. trotsky Jan 2013 #39
That question cannot be properly addressed Thats my opinion Jan 2013 #46
"God is not a big person up there who talks to people." trotsky Jan 2013 #69
hume has been having a comeback lately Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #64
Did you really finish off skepticscott Jan 2013 #40
Yup, that is exactly how I took it as well. n/t trotsky Jan 2013 #70
Does anyone remember the dude who was able to fake being a savant? Ian David Jan 2013 #31
The imam is completely, technically wrong, so you might not want to repeat this around cbayer Jan 2013 #42
She obviously has mental health problems, as god only tells people to do good things... cleanhippie Jan 2013 #10
What happened to free will?? Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #16
I wonder why God does so many bad things in Lubbock? Squinch Jan 2013 #26
Maybe happiness really *IS* looking at Lubbock Texas in your rear view mirror? n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #28
God sure seems to think so... Squinch Jan 2013 #29
Lubbock County Natural Disasters and Weather Extremes Ian David Jan 2013 #32
They can use that as their tourism slogan: "At least they don't have any volcanoes." Squinch Jan 2013 #33
I just tweeted this as "Woman arrested in another attack on religious freedom!" n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #27
Ha ha ! Thats my opinion Jan 2013 #38
Finally! We Agree! cleanhippie Jan 2013 #44
"the actions of a person are what matter" tama Jan 2013 #67
Are you suggesting that the rule of thumb here is basically, trotsky Jan 2013 #71
Poor woman. But let's not miss the opportunity to set her up as an example cbayer Jan 2013 #41
Family: woman arrested after suspected arson has mental illness struggle4progress Jan 2013 #68
God cant talk to people who have mental issues? moobu2 Jan 2013 #73
People with significant psychiatric disorders who hear voices telling them to cbayer Jan 2013 #74
Most of the stories in the Bible concern people hearing voices moobu2 Jan 2013 #75
That's not really true. cbayer Jan 2013 #79
Well, before I posted the question I did a search on biblegateway.com for "god said" moobu2 Jan 2013 #86
I think many have reported being inspried in some way. cbayer Jan 2013 #87
Why use the utterances of a perhaps mentally ill woman for a rhetorical gambit? struggle4progress Jan 2013 #76
You think God would no speak to a person who was thought to be mentally ill? moobu2 Jan 2013 #77
Why put words in my mouth? struggle4progress Jan 2013 #78
You're getting way off topic. moobu2 Jan 2013 #82
Are you trained in psychiatry, psychology or any other kind of mental cbayer Jan 2013 #84
I'm not trained in psychiatry but moobu2 Jan 2013 #85
Not true. There are some neurological conditions that can cause cbayer Jan 2013 #88
Uh, those would be skepticscott Jan 2013 #90
I consider your PoV silly. Of course, Thomas Paine's remarks on revelation are on point: struggle4progress Jan 2013 #89
Because it's cheap, easy, ad would have been okasha Jan 2013 #80
I believe her NoOneMan Jan 2013 #72
Wouldn't such God tama Jan 2013 #81
Such a God may be surrounded by faith healers NoOneMan Jan 2013 #83
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