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Flabbergasted

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8. The perception of being "self-contradictory" is a misunderstanding.

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 07:15 PM

Jan 2013

Koan:

No Cold and Heat

A monk asked Tozan, "How can we escape the cold and heat?" Tozan replied, "Why not go where there is no cold and heat?" "Is there such a place?" the monk asked. Tozan commented, "When cold, be thoroughly cold; when hot, be hot through and through.

Further, there is a theological understanding that a discussion or conceptualization of "God as truth" is inherently paradoxical. This is the product of the mind and and the nature of rationality.

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Are you saying the only way to understand God is to experience God? nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #1

It's not the point I'm making. I'm saying God is not understood. Nt Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #2

Ah, I thougth the part about Buddha refusing to talk about his experiences ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #3

That is the individual understanding of that sentence. Thanks for your reply. nt Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #4

Except that your post skepticscott Jan 2013 #5

That's a good observation and has been noted by theologians. The concept of God itself is inadeduet Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #6

Experience is not a justification skepticscott Jan 2013 #7

The perception of being "self-contradictory" is a misunderstanding. Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #8

I was wrong skepticscott Jan 2013 #9

Have you truly contemplated your signature? Add a layer of ego to the inerrant layer of doubt? nt Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #10

Well, I have to admit skepticscott Jan 2013 #11

Only the real, rare, and true vegetative mind can withstand blue cheese. I love Blue Cheese ;) Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #12

So? tama Jan 2013 #13

The koan points out that the judgement of mind is illusory... Flabbergasted Jan 2013 #14