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36. One last time: they are different entities.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:51 AM

Jan 2013

Here's an update.

"Catholic Bishops To Investigate Catholic Hospital Group That Argued In Lawsuit That Fetuses Are Not People "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/catholic-bishops-investigate-hospital-fetus_n_2546353.html

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The Catholic Church's moral authority... [View all] skepticscott Jan 2013 OP

Here's a less histrionic report. rug Jan 2013 #1

Maybe they should go on "Dancing with the Stars"! DryRain Jan 2013 #3

Oh, and the hospitals skepticscott Jan 2013 #5

Claiming that the Catholic Church should have any "moral authority" is like... DryRain Jan 2013 #2

You do know you're not responding to the title of the article. rug Jan 2013 #4

Hair-splitting of the kind that the RCC decries skepticscott Jan 2013 #7

"A fetus is not a person if it costs us money, says Catholic Church" DryRain Jan 2013 #9

Yes, that is the better headline because it underscores the actual issue. rug Jan 2013 #10

And that hypocrisy is directly related skepticscott Jan 2013 #12

Hardly. Do you understand the difference between hypocrisy, competence and moral authority? rug Jan 2013 #16

The RCC has been morally bankrupt since, oh, right around its beginning. trotsky Jan 2013 #6

Oh, but it's sooooooooo hard to leave skepticscott Jan 2013 #8

According to Colorado law... pokerfan Jan 2013 #11

+1 Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #31

Hypocrisy not being against the law, perhaps it is just as common in lawsuits as it is struggle4progress Jan 2013 #13

Who said anything skepticscott Jan 2013 #14

Your objection seems to be that the lawyers' argument is inconsistent with struggle4progress Jan 2013 #15

It should, however, cut off any attempt by CHI to object to providing contraception muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #17

I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt your conclusion. Lawyers are hired to argue that their clients struggle4progress Jan 2013 #19

I'm not saying they have extra culpability in this case muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #21

The lawyers may simply be reciting the law. rug Jan 2013 #22

Again, I'm pointing out that they lack the moral convictions they claim for the anti-Obamacare stuff muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #23

That also is the current state of the law. rug Jan 2013 #26

What "is the current state of the law"? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #27

At the moment, the ACA cases are breaking that corporate employers cannot claim religious liberty rug Jan 2013 #30

I doubt that any court would have interest in your pov: the case here seems to be revolve around struggle4progress Jan 2013 #34

One more time: I'm saying this hurts their claim that they have an objection to abortion muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #35

One last time: they are different entities. rug Jan 2013 #36

I think that proves my point: muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #37

Not really. As it stands now, CHI has no moral conviction; it's a corporation. rug Jan 2013 #43

It *claims* it has moral convictions; hence the quotes in my post (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #44

That's where the hypocrisy comes in. rug Jan 2013 #45

This is exactly the point. trotsky Jan 2013 #39

You state the obvious, but not the point skepticscott Jan 2013 #18

Well, of course. You dislike the Catholic church, so are pleased whenever possible struggle4progress Jan 2013 #20

Superiority to an organization that has protected and enabled pedophiles, trotsky Jan 2013 #24

If you suspect any defendants in this case are pedophiles, or have shielded pedophiles struggle4progress Jan 2013 #33

I see you've shifted the goalposts. trotsky Jan 2013 #38

The thread concerns a case involving a hospital run by a nonprofit, whose name includes the word struggle4progress Jan 2013 #40

The evidence is the church itself now backpedaling. trotsky Jan 2013 #41

Here's someone else you can argue with: trotsky Jan 2013 #46

Apparently my question was quite necessary skepticscott Jan 2013 #28

If it is your view, that the law must be applied to people whom you consider hypocrites differently struggle4progress Jan 2013 #32

That's not my view skepticscott Jan 2013 #47

Aaaaah-hahahaha! Iggo Jan 2013 #25

Matthew 6 21: For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also....n/t dimbear Jan 2013 #29

No church, and especially the RCC, has any moral authority. None. At. All. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #42