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MADem

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27. I don't know. I do know that a bit of vociferous argument occurred over Obama
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:16 AM
Jan 2013

choosing, for his inauguration ceremony, a black (church-hopping) laywoman (first ever) who was the widow of a civil rights activist who worked side-by-side with MLK and an activist in her own right to give an invocation, and a pro-gay marriage Hispanic immigrant pastor from the church he attends to give the benediction.

But is that wedge driving? Or just classic DU shit-stirring?

That was a single, solitary event and we won't see one of those for another four years. It will be hard to maintain the outrage on that score.

This little foray, though? This is plainly an "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal. It's like the fundies who tell crude and hate-filled Jewish jokes amongst themselves, and then profess their undying support for Israel because they think they need Jews to do their Rapture Thing. The anti-choice people are realizing that they aren't winning their argument by killing doctors, by parading around with fetus pictures, by standing in the way of women seeking services at clinics and hollering invective at them, by pointing a pastor's shaky finger at people and screaming "GAWD IS GONNA GITCHA!!!!" so they're trying this on for size.

Thing is, most of the wingnut fundies on the front lines of the anti-choice wars will have to really swallow hard to partner with this "enemy of my enemy." It's just not their schtick. It's like oil and water.

I do smell organized cash behind this thing. This is not a "grassroots" thing at all--the astroturf is still giving off that plastic stank.

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This should come as no surprise. cbayer Jan 2013 #1
They received some interesting reactions. rug Jan 2013 #3
No true scotsman! cbayer Jan 2013 #5
She doesn't understand the science of reproduction, apparently. MADem Jan 2013 #2
There's no willing womb involved in a pregnancy that's the result of rape. rug Jan 2013 #4
It doesn't matter what the reason for the pregnancy is. If the woman does not want to be pregnant, MADem Jan 2013 #7
Then your analogy fails. rug Jan 2013 #8
What analogy? I'm am pro-choice, plain and simple. It's not your business and it's not mine. MADem Jan 2013 #10
Your analogy about reproduction. rug Jan 2013 #11
It's about an "atheist pro-lifer" who claims that a clump of cells is a human being because MADem Jan 2013 #20
This is interesting. rug Jan 2013 #23
When the clump of cells forms a body and brain and can live outside a host. MADem Jan 2013 #24
I noticed you called this classic wedge-driving below. rug Jan 2013 #25
I don't know. I do know that a bit of vociferous argument occurred over Obama MADem Jan 2013 #27
That was not a one-time thing if you've been following along. rug Jan 2013 #31
Because I have google. This woman is very suddenly everywhere. nt MADem Jan 2013 #34
There is no reproduction without gestation nt Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #29
Why is that? cbayer Jan 2013 #6
Something smells "off" to me. MADem Jan 2013 #9
Oh, she definitely has an agenda. cbayer Jan 2013 #13
She wouldn't be the first atheist who is anti-Obama. rug Jan 2013 #16
Of course. Probably the worst political pro-lifer in history was atheist Ceaucescu. Nevertheless, LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #12
shouldn't that be atheist anti-choicer? n/t 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #14
If they're advocating repeal as well, yes. rug Jan 2013 #15
Where does it say that lack of belief in gods requires support for abortion? mr blur Jan 2013 #17
It doesn't. Why you can even be a misogynist xenophobe as well. rug Jan 2013 #18
Nowhere, but she is meeting some pretty heated resistance from some within the cbayer Jan 2013 #19
This is CLASSIC wedge-driving. She wants to appeal to "jaded youth" who adapt a sarcastic, MADem Jan 2013 #21
You could be right and time will most likely tell. cbayer Jan 2013 #32
I'd settle for a world okasha Jan 2013 #22
If the fundies in Congress wouldn't make it difficult and expensive for women MADem Jan 2013 #26
A moment of Devil's advocacy: napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #28
If current trends continue tama Jan 2013 #30
Man, I should have gone Amish. Its all about the beards. nt napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #43
I can't for the life of me figure out how you see a pro-life agenda cbayer Jan 2013 #33
Its honestly more of a hypothetical question. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #36
Good points, but I doubt you mean to suggest that abortion be outlawed cbayer Jan 2013 #38
abortion should not be outlawed. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #40
Well, it's an interesting question. cbayer Jan 2013 #41
Yeah, good question. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #42
I saw an interesting documentary on the religious beliefs of African American slaves. cbayer Jan 2013 #44
Hey, nice little boat GIF. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #45
I think self determination is a great term. cbayer Jan 2013 #46
Ever since I knew of the Log Cabin Republicans, nothing surprises me anymore. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #35
The correct response is 'So?' uriel1972 Jan 2013 #37
But...but...but... IT"S AN ATHEIST THAT THINKS THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!! cleanhippie Jan 2013 #39
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