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eallen

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11. Positive, in the sense of something believed, rather than something not believed.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jan 2013

The usual notion of an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a god.

By itself, that says nothing about what beliefs an atheist might hold, except that belief in a god isn't among them.

If we go with the idea, though, that atheism is a conscious decision, that shouldn't be ascribed to infants or rocks, that starts to imply something about what atheist do believe. It will vary from atheist to atheist, but generically I suspect it would be something like: None of these explanations I've heard or read for belief in a god make any sense. Which is a belief, rather than a non-belief. More, it is a belief that suggests many particular beliefs leading up to it, about the the various explanations any particular atheist has heard or read.


What is it then? rug Jan 2013 #1
It can be a lack of belief Fumesucker Jan 2013 #2
Is it therefore defined entirely by the negative? rug Jan 2013 #3
In my view, there is a positive content to atheism... eallen Jan 2013 #8
You described rejection, not anything positive or new. rug Jan 2013 #9
Positive, in the sense of something believed, rather than something not believed. eallen Jan 2013 #11
Are you familar with Atheism+? rug Jan 2013 #12
Consider this tama Jan 2013 #20
It is a strong argument that infants are, in fact, atheists. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #14
And rocks? eallen Jan 2013 #17
Fair enough. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #22
Well, you're the one who's obsessed with atheism. (Nice evasion of the point of the OP, b.t.w.) mr blur Jan 2013 #4
More bemused than obsesed. (Nice answer to my question BTW.) rug Jan 2013 #5
It's nothing. jeff47 Jan 2013 #6
It is a label that is broadly given to people, whether they accept it or not, rhett o rick Jan 2013 #10
At best it's neutral. rug Jan 2013 #13
Morals are independent from religion. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #15
They are independent of atheism. rug Jan 2013 #16
I agree that morals are independent of atheism because atheism isnt a religion. It doesnt rhett o rick Jan 2013 #18
Not to quibble but there are many nonreligious sources of morals and ethics. rug Jan 2013 #19
I think we agree. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #26
You never made the claim that morals may come from atheism. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #23
And tama Jan 2013 #25
About what? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #28
You tell me tama Jan 2013 #29
Interesting question. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #31
From above tama Jan 2013 #32
Perhaps you overlooked this part? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #33
Thanks for the invite tama Jan 2013 #34
That is really unfortunate. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #36
OK, maybe I'll make a post there. :) tama Jan 2013 #37
Believing in Nothing has a very different meaning to some people starroute Jan 2013 #7
Christian Neoplatonism tama Jan 2013 #21
The Irish monks were in direct contact with the Eastern church starroute Jan 2013 #35
God doesn't like smart alecks? dimbear Jan 2013 #24
they believe in reality Skittles Jan 2013 #27
That is not required by atheism tama Jan 2013 #30
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