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tama

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20. Consider this
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jan 2013

Religions can be too, through various paths, ways to non-attachment to any belief system. And that "God" can be also symbol for state or experience of no belief systems being present, attached to. It is in fact quite plausible that "mystery" can in many cases refer to state or experience of non-belief, e.g. pure awareness without content of any mental objects such as belief systems.

That may be a experiental truth behind a religion, as a belief system stating and suggesting that such state is possible, and that such and such practices will help to achieve such state.

Also on the other hand, philosophical definitions aside, as psychological state and behavioral pattern "atheist" identity some times appears as belief system about religions and spirituality in general, attaching negative values to everything and anything related to religions and spirituality, belief that religions are all bad and need to be opposed and attacked.

Just to show that there can be many aspects to belief systems and lack of them, and there is no simple theist-atheist divide in that respect.

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What is it then? rug Jan 2013 #1
It can be a lack of belief Fumesucker Jan 2013 #2
Is it therefore defined entirely by the negative? rug Jan 2013 #3
In my view, there is a positive content to atheism... eallen Jan 2013 #8
You described rejection, not anything positive or new. rug Jan 2013 #9
Positive, in the sense of something believed, rather than something not believed. eallen Jan 2013 #11
Are you familar with Atheism+? rug Jan 2013 #12
Consider this tama Jan 2013 #20
It is a strong argument that infants are, in fact, atheists. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #14
And rocks? eallen Jan 2013 #17
Fair enough. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #22
Well, you're the one who's obsessed with atheism. (Nice evasion of the point of the OP, b.t.w.) mr blur Jan 2013 #4
More bemused than obsesed. (Nice answer to my question BTW.) rug Jan 2013 #5
It's nothing. jeff47 Jan 2013 #6
It is a label that is broadly given to people, whether they accept it or not, rhett o rick Jan 2013 #10
At best it's neutral. rug Jan 2013 #13
Morals are independent from religion. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #15
They are independent of atheism. rug Jan 2013 #16
I agree that morals are independent of atheism because atheism isnt a religion. It doesnt rhett o rick Jan 2013 #18
Not to quibble but there are many nonreligious sources of morals and ethics. rug Jan 2013 #19
I think we agree. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #26
You never made the claim that morals may come from atheism. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #23
And tama Jan 2013 #25
About what? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #28
You tell me tama Jan 2013 #29
Interesting question. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #31
From above tama Jan 2013 #32
Perhaps you overlooked this part? cleanhippie Jan 2013 #33
Thanks for the invite tama Jan 2013 #34
That is really unfortunate. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #36
OK, maybe I'll make a post there. :) tama Jan 2013 #37
Believing in Nothing has a very different meaning to some people starroute Jan 2013 #7
Christian Neoplatonism tama Jan 2013 #21
The Irish monks were in direct contact with the Eastern church starroute Jan 2013 #35
God doesn't like smart alecks? dimbear Jan 2013 #24
they believe in reality Skittles Jan 2013 #27
That is not required by atheism tama Jan 2013 #30
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