Where do you atheists get your morals?

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173. The agenda is politically and ethically very disagreeable

Much of it arises from empathy in very local and narrow in-group. Independent and self-sufficient rural community is fine ideal, and even better practice. When you are materially self-sufficient and not dependent, you can have more to give to those in need. But the ideal, which is fine, is in Teabagger cases seldom practical reality, and that can lead to many kinds of confusion. The liberal or progressive ideal of progress towards global village and global empathy and compassion is also fine, but not necessarily less confused, as in practice it is happening mostly in authoritarian top-down manner (neoliberalism and neocolonialism) with much injustice and suffering, not building organically in bottom-up manner.

BTW I just read that "Bible-thumping" Amish are doing lot of good and common sense aid work in Haiti. But of course as they don't usually vote, they don't much register on politically oriented site like DU.