Insist that organizations fit those particular criteria, all nine of them, you're moving the goalposts a bit yourself, as you're essentially breaking down the Church's behavior into nine bullet points, and, particularly with the last two, creating a paradigm unique to them.
How about this: Did the Catholic Church create laws making it legal for a convicted child abuser to retain custody of the victim, like the state of New York did (and many other states with "incest loopholes) are still doing?
No, but you know what, regardless of the methods or the details, both organizations allowed for the abuse of minors to go unpunished and, in some circumstances, created situations in which the abuse would continue. That is what I care about. Did the legal system never arrogantly presume to be able to dictate moral behavior to the whole human race? Do not care.
When I say this issue is bigger, I don't just mean larger in size.
But, again, what has the Vatican's stance on gun control to do with the abuse scandal? You sound like those Repulicans who insist that because of Obama's use of drones, he has no right to talk about gun violence.
No, I tend to eschew prejudices, as people are individuals, and while we can talk with some accuracy about groups, the persons that make up collectives are what interest me. Sometimes locks require different keys. I also find it easier to convince someone by talking with them rather than shouting at them.
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