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20. Give me an example, if you don't mind.

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Is the religious left too nice and without influence? [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2013 OP

Correct, in a way. tama Feb 2013 #1

Sometimes too nice, but the problem is multifactorial. cbayer Feb 2013 #2

Those are some serious accusations, cbayer. trotsky Feb 2013 #3

We on the left ought to be colleagues. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #6

Getting shot down on a message board should hurt a lot less, IMHO. dimbear Feb 2013 #7

So do you have any evidence? trotsky Feb 2013 #44

So, more concisely, "Stifle!" dimbear Feb 2013 #4

I'm not saying stifle at all and a review of my views on this, cbayer Feb 2013 #5

But accusing some DUers of carrying water for the right is still a serious accusation muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #8

People can carry water intentionally or not. cbayer Feb 2013 #9

But as an exception, it would be OK to mock Scientology, wouldn't it? dimbear Feb 2013 #11

In my opinion, yes tama Feb 2013 #13

Yeah, in my book it would be. cbayer Feb 2013 #21

So it's OK to mock what you think it's OK to mock, trotsky Feb 2013 #45

I brought it up because I know the Scientologists aren't part of your brand. You're atheist toward dimbear Feb 2013 #54

I don't have a brand, dimbear. cbayer Feb 2013 #56

I see the ground rules emerging now. In 1601 in Lisbon, the Catholic church represented by dimbear Feb 2013 #59

You can mock specific people or incidences all you want. cbayer Feb 2013 #60

We all enjoy Monty Python tama Feb 2013 #63

I agree SecularMotion Feb 2013 #15

And there are many here whose only purpose seems to be to attack religion and religionist. cbayer Feb 2013 #18

But how is that relevant? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #55

I don't think they have taken the cookie jar away, but I do think they hurt cbayer Feb 2013 #58

Numbers are precisely my point Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #90

Atheists are reviled? By who? I've never felt reviled for my atheism. Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #94

Which is carrying water: opposing the right's attempt to redefine the start of pregnancy muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #16

A discussion about the start of pregnancy is not what I am talking about at all. cbayer Feb 2013 #19

'Strongly in favour'? If you mean AU, I think not muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #26

It's not my wishful thinking at all. They voiced support (maybe strongly is the wrong word) cbayer Feb 2013 #27

"reaching a compromise" is "avoiding arguments" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #42

You and I disagreeing on a policy point is not the same thing as the members here who cbayer Feb 2013 #43

muriel's certainly got you on the defensive. trotsky Feb 2013 #48

By supporting Obama's administration "compromise" you (generic and personal) are enabling religious idwiyo Feb 2013 #95

I disagree with you. I think a compromise is in order and I think this one is reasonable. cbayer Feb 2013 #96

Interestingly, in googling this, I found an old DU discussion about the phrase. cbayer Feb 2013 #10

If any one regularly carries water for the religious right, it's the religious left. Evoman Feb 2013 #12

we all drink from the same well tama Feb 2013 #14

Give me an example, if you don't mind. cbayer Feb 2013 #20

Ugh no. Evoman Feb 2013 #25

Have fun! cbayer Feb 2013 #28

Gladly Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #61

Disagree. Scripture is open to interpretation and adopting one interpretation cbayer Feb 2013 #64

But there is no objective way in which to justify one's interpretation Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #68

What difference does it make who is "correct"? cbayer Feb 2013 #69

No one is "correct". That's the point. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #77

One interpretation is as good as any other okasha Feb 2013 #79

It isn't the conclusion that concerns me, it is the method Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #83

Except I didn't say anything remotely close to what you ascribe to me. cbayer Feb 2013 #84

Wait, you want me to interpret passages from the bible? cbayer Feb 2013 #80

So you're saying this passage is up for interpretation? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #81

Again, what does it matter? Unless you are a literalist, and I am assuming cbayer Feb 2013 #82

This is precisely what I mean: Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #85

Yes, it is what they do and anyone who speaks up against them using cbayer Feb 2013 #87

But I'm not dismissing or attacking them Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #88

I have nothing more to say to you, but you are about to experience a significant cbayer Feb 2013 #89

Before leaving, you can mull this over... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #91

The part where you substituted *atheist* for *anti-theist* to begin with. cbayer Feb 2013 #92

And there is no objective way to prove tama Feb 2013 #72

Appeals to solopcism? Could you present a more neutral argument? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #76

... tama Feb 2013 #78

Did you even read the link? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #86

Nothing much tama Feb 2013 #93

I know that I already asked you to provide examples of this, and you refused, cbayer Feb 2013 #33

Huh? Where did I reassert it? Evoman Feb 2013 #73

Sorry, I thought you had posted it in two different places. cbayer Feb 2013 #75

really? you make judgments about people you do not know madrchsod Feb 2013 #53

Yeah, all the time. You don't? Evoman Feb 2013 #74

I think it may be about behavior. longship Feb 2013 #30

Good points. When the religious right really co-opted the label of "christian" cbayer Feb 2013 #34

I did see that thread and commented there, too. longship Feb 2013 #41

I think you're pretty close the mark there Act_of_Reparation Feb 2013 #65

I don't think the religious left is 'without influence'... LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #17

I agree and actually think the religious left has a lot of influence, but cbayer Feb 2013 #22

I also think that the religious who are left-leaning Leontius Feb 2013 #23

Good point and I agree. cbayer Feb 2013 #24

Yes moman Feb 2013 #29

Agree. (nt) pinto Feb 2013 #32

"the rest of the left"? trotsky Feb 2013 #47

The right is certainly more adept okasha Feb 2013 #49

"....all the money can`t another minute buy..." madrchsod Feb 2013 #62

Conundrum. The religious right has essentially become a political organization / movement. pinto Feb 2013 #31

I don't think so. They became single (or double) issue voters and cbayer Feb 2013 #36

Good points. I'd love to see a broad, vocal coalition re-emerge around common causes and objectives. pinto Feb 2013 #40

I'm not sure I understand what the author wants from the "Religious Left". patrice Feb 2013 #35

Well, her working hypothesis pretty much gets shot down by everyone cbayer Feb 2013 #37

The Left...which includes some religious denominations..in my experience is characterized by thought libdem4life Feb 2013 #38

Great post, libdem4life. I agree that the way the religious left approaches cbayer Feb 2013 #39

Thanks. In some groups, it's called Holding the Space. That's where I generally find myself. libdem4life Feb 2013 #46

You got me interested tama Feb 2013 #50

What a gift...the web sites and as a pianist, the You Tube karaoke. Many, many blessings to you. libdem4life Feb 2013 #51

Thanks for filling space tama Feb 2013 #52

cool site....thanks! madrchsod Feb 2013 #67

the words attributed to jesus are far older than the times he lived in. madrchsod Feb 2013 #57

Yes, they are. They are Universal archetypes like the Creation and the Flood libdem4life Feb 2013 #66

my "hobby" is archaeology ancient civilizations. madrchsod Feb 2013 #70

I got hooked on this somewhere between my 60s Soc-Anthro BA and fleeing my childhood Right Wingers. libdem4life Feb 2013 #71

The "religious left" isn't actually that religious... MellowDem Mar 2013 #97