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LeftishBrit

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50. Then why ask if it's possible to be bigoted against a bigot?

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 12:13 PM

Jan 2012

Who are the 'bigots' in this case?

ETA: And even if you didn't mean Jessica - you are *still* implying that some people deserve bigotry, or are out of the reach of general rules against bigotry, because they have expressed prejudices themselves. This is a nasty version of the 'eye for an eye that makes the whole world blind'. It's like e.g. saying 'Is it even possible to commit a crime against a criminal?' - implying that once you have broken the law anyone should have a right to commit any crime they wish against you.

NO ONE deserves bigotry; not even those who have themselves shown bigotry.

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More Christian Bigotry: florists refuse to deliver FFRF�s flowers to Jessica Ahlquist [View all] cleanhippie Jan 2012 OP

What the Fuck? Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #1

I'm nearly positive that our resident apologists will be noticably silent on this, as usual. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #3

Ascribing religion to be the motivation seems to be a bit of a stretch. Sal316 Jan 2012 #6

On cue. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #8

Now I'm an apologist? Sal316 Jan 2012 #13

What possible reasons are there for not delivering to her? Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #16

It appears to me that Sal agrees with you. cbayer Jan 2012 #17

While still wanting to take religion out of the mix. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #18

Even FFRF doesn't make the same assumption to motive as the OP of this thread does. cbayer Jan 2012 #20

What possible other reason could there be? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #21

That's my whole point...thanks. Sal316 Jan 2012 #32

If it's threats, or fear of loss of business, then the bigotry is pervasive in the community muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #49

I am not arguing that there is not bigotry at play here. cbayer Jan 2012 #52

And that bigotry is displayed by some Christians muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #55

Point taken. cbayer Jan 2012 #56

Money, avoiding the news notoriety... Sal316 Jan 2012 #33

I'm actually Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #43

Lame. Assed. Excuses. Sal316 Jan 2012 #2

Agree. Pretty despicable. cbayer Jan 2012 #7

Satan has aquired more souls to roast Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #4

Wish we had all the time and money to sue these bigots, but unfortunately MarkCharles Jan 2012 #5

Is it even possible to be bigoted against a bigot? nt humblebum Jan 2012 #9

Are you defending the actions against this teenage girl, who has received death and rape threats? nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #10

How you got that from that is anyone's guess. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #11

You generally side against atheists, ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #12

I think it's pretty self explanatory. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #15

I don't think your comment is self explanatory. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #19

It is. You called Jessica Ahlquist a bigot. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #40

Nowhere did say that nor imply it. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #41

Then why ask if it's possible to be bigoted against a bigot? LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #50

This +10000 Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #76

Because that's the kind of thing you usually do. nt mr blur Jan 2012 #23

What does that mean in this instance? n/t Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #14

Just who is it that you are calling a bigot in all this? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #22

Where did I call anyone a bigot? I merely asked a very simple question and humblebum Jan 2012 #24

You asked if it was possible to be bigoted against a bigot. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #25

Answer the question or u "need to take it elsewhere."nt humblebum Jan 2012 #26

YOU answer the fucking question. Who is the bigot? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #27

The question was a rhetorical question to begin with, but I asked mine first, and humblebum Jan 2012 #28

Why don't you just answer the question? mr blur Jan 2012 #30

I am not in the habit of answering my own questions, especially when humblebum Jan 2012 #31

Not sure that is actually possible. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #34

You have the most difficult time answering a simple don't question, humblebum Jan 2012 #35

You have the most difficulty being honest cleanhippie Jan 2012 #46

If I asked you,"What color is the sky?," you would would gnaw off humblebum Jan 2012 #47

If it was a rhetorical question, then you were trying to make a point muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #51

There is more than one party involved in this scenario, you know. humblebum Jan 2012 #54

Jesus Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #58

Let's just say that the FFRF has a different take on the 1st Amendment than I do and humblebum Jan 2012 #59

I have no doubt that they do. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #60

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #63

So glad I could keep you entertained. But that's good, humblebum Jan 2012 #64

Were ALL used to it, we have had to deal with your posts for some time. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #66

He won't state that because that what he actually believes. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #57

They denied service to the young girl Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #29

You are implying that Jessica is a bigot. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #37

And just where did I imply such a thing? nt humblebum Jan 2012 #38

Keep dodging, it just makes you look like a jerk. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #39

I am not the one doing all the name calling here. That Sir is you. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #42

Yes, actually, you are. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #61

Please show where I said that. Otherwise, can it. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #62

In the title of post #9. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #77

Um? Where in there did I call anyone a name? If you look closely humblebum Jan 2012 #78

Are you going to claim that your intent was not to imply that Jessica Ahlquist was a bigot? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #79

Yep. That was not my intent as already stated. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #82

Come on.... Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #44

What horseshit. She is the VICTIM of bigotry. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #36

This subthread is utterly ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous. cbayer Jan 2012 #45

wow, strong words there Heddi Jan 2012 #83

Its ridiculousness is borne out solely of the poster who started it. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #84

Just what are you insinuating? backscatter712 Jan 2012 #48

Jessica is not a bigot; but in any case, the answer is obviously yes. LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #53

Thank You for answering his question with the perfect example. unapatriciated Jan 2012 #68

He thinks anyone who is a non- believer is a bigot. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #74

Is it possible to look into a mirror, and then to look around the room? Iggo Jan 2012 #80

I've always wondered. Can shadows have shadows? nt humblebum Jan 2012 #81

maybe Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #87

maybe Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #86

Two OTHER threads on this topic in other forums: MarkCharles Jan 2012 #65

As a Christian myself I think this is a good call out on bigotry - with a 'but' thrown in The Straight Story Jan 2012 #67

I am fairly sick to death of straight folks using the gay community as rhetorical fodder Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #69

Agreed, and I'm going to add my two cents. yardwork Jan 2012 #70

Gay people provide services to people who don't like us every day. yardwork Jan 2012 #71

I am well aware of that. The Straight Story Jan 2012 #72

Yes, it would be bigotry to deny services to somebody just because you don't like them. yardwork Jan 2012 #73

Yes, that is bigotry. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #75

"...fought against having a gay/straight club and won..." 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #85