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muriel_volestrangler

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51. If it was a rhetorical question, then you were trying to make a point

Fri Jan 20, 2012, 12:14 PM

Jan 2012

And people want you to be clear on the point you were making. So far, you've refused to explain it; people have taken your rhetorical question at face value, and agreed that you are calling the girl a bigot. You have the chance to clarify that you aren't; so far, you've refused to take that. Unsurprisingly, people think they called it right in the first place; you are calling her a bigot (and introducing the case of a racist group as a comparison seems to show you think the FFRF is bigoted too).

You should know that you are making yourself look truly bad in this sub-thread. You've got Christians shaking their head in disbelief at your attitude, not just atheists. Why not stop digging your hole deeper, and state that you don't think she or the FFRF are bigots?

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More Christian Bigotry: florists refuse to deliver FFRF�s flowers to Jessica Ahlquist [View all] cleanhippie Jan 2012 OP

What the Fuck? Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #1

I'm nearly positive that our resident apologists will be noticably silent on this, as usual. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #3

Ascribing religion to be the motivation seems to be a bit of a stretch. Sal316 Jan 2012 #6

On cue. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #8

Now I'm an apologist? Sal316 Jan 2012 #13

What possible reasons are there for not delivering to her? Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #16

It appears to me that Sal agrees with you. cbayer Jan 2012 #17

While still wanting to take religion out of the mix. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #18

Even FFRF doesn't make the same assumption to motive as the OP of this thread does. cbayer Jan 2012 #20

What possible other reason could there be? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #21

That's my whole point...thanks. Sal316 Jan 2012 #32

If it's threats, or fear of loss of business, then the bigotry is pervasive in the community muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #49

I am not arguing that there is not bigotry at play here. cbayer Jan 2012 #52

And that bigotry is displayed by some Christians muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #55

Point taken. cbayer Jan 2012 #56

Money, avoiding the news notoriety... Sal316 Jan 2012 #33

I'm actually Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #43

Lame. Assed. Excuses. Sal316 Jan 2012 #2

Agree. Pretty despicable. cbayer Jan 2012 #7

Satan has aquired more souls to roast Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #4

Wish we had all the time and money to sue these bigots, but unfortunately MarkCharles Jan 2012 #5

Is it even possible to be bigoted against a bigot? nt humblebum Jan 2012 #9

Are you defending the actions against this teenage girl, who has received death and rape threats? nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #10

How you got that from that is anyone's guess. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #11

You generally side against atheists, ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #12

I think it's pretty self explanatory. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #15

I don't think your comment is self explanatory. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #19

It is. You called Jessica Ahlquist a bigot. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #40

Nowhere did say that nor imply it. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #41

Then why ask if it's possible to be bigoted against a bigot? LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #50

This +10000 Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #76

Because that's the kind of thing you usually do. nt mr blur Jan 2012 #23

What does that mean in this instance? n/t Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #14

Just who is it that you are calling a bigot in all this? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #22

Where did I call anyone a bigot? I merely asked a very simple question and humblebum Jan 2012 #24

You asked if it was possible to be bigoted against a bigot. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #25

Answer the question or u "need to take it elsewhere."nt humblebum Jan 2012 #26

YOU answer the fucking question. Who is the bigot? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #27

The question was a rhetorical question to begin with, but I asked mine first, and humblebum Jan 2012 #28

Why don't you just answer the question? mr blur Jan 2012 #30

I am not in the habit of answering my own questions, especially when humblebum Jan 2012 #31

Not sure that is actually possible. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #34

You have the most difficult time answering a simple don't question, humblebum Jan 2012 #35

You have the most difficulty being honest cleanhippie Jan 2012 #46

If I asked you,"What color is the sky?," you would would gnaw off humblebum Jan 2012 #47

If it was a rhetorical question, then you were trying to make a point muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #51

There is more than one party involved in this scenario, you know. humblebum Jan 2012 #54

Jesus Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #58

Let's just say that the FFRF has a different take on the 1st Amendment than I do and humblebum Jan 2012 #59

I have no doubt that they do. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #60

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #63

So glad I could keep you entertained. But that's good, humblebum Jan 2012 #64

Were ALL used to it, we have had to deal with your posts for some time. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #66

He won't state that because that what he actually believes. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #57

They denied service to the young girl Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #29

You are implying that Jessica is a bigot. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #37

And just where did I imply such a thing? nt humblebum Jan 2012 #38

Keep dodging, it just makes you look like a jerk. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #39

I am not the one doing all the name calling here. That Sir is you. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #42

Yes, actually, you are. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #61

Please show where I said that. Otherwise, can it. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #62

In the title of post #9. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #77

Um? Where in there did I call anyone a name? If you look closely humblebum Jan 2012 #78

Are you going to claim that your intent was not to imply that Jessica Ahlquist was a bigot? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #79

Yep. That was not my intent as already stated. nt humblebum Jan 2012 #82

Come on.... Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #44

What horseshit. She is the VICTIM of bigotry. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #36

This subthread is utterly ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous. cbayer Jan 2012 #45

wow, strong words there Heddi Jan 2012 #83

Its ridiculousness is borne out solely of the poster who started it. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #84

Just what are you insinuating? backscatter712 Jan 2012 #48

Jessica is not a bigot; but in any case, the answer is obviously yes. LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #53

Thank You for answering his question with the perfect example. unapatriciated Jan 2012 #68

He thinks anyone who is a non- believer is a bigot. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #74

Is it possible to look into a mirror, and then to look around the room? Iggo Jan 2012 #80

I've always wondered. Can shadows have shadows? nt humblebum Jan 2012 #81

maybe Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #87

maybe Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #86

Two OTHER threads on this topic in other forums: MarkCharles Jan 2012 #65

As a Christian myself I think this is a good call out on bigotry - with a 'but' thrown in The Straight Story Jan 2012 #67

I am fairly sick to death of straight folks using the gay community as rhetorical fodder Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #69

Agreed, and I'm going to add my two cents. yardwork Jan 2012 #70

Gay people provide services to people who don't like us every day. yardwork Jan 2012 #71

I am well aware of that. The Straight Story Jan 2012 #72

Yes, it would be bigotry to deny services to somebody just because you don't like them. yardwork Jan 2012 #73

Yes, that is bigotry. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #75

"...fought against having a gay/straight club and won..." 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #85