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Squinch

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33. I don't see the logic of how reading a book full of violence and oppression and

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:54 AM

Feb 2013

ugliness changes someone's sexual orientation. That's a pretty big leap from "I started reading the bible" to "One day I came to Jesus naked." How exactly does one "come to Jesus naked?" And how exactly does that change one's sexual orientation?

These stories are always full of great sounding and meaningless phrases: "Jesus triumphed." This translates to the author changed her mind. "God sang a sanguine love song." What? What could that possibly mean? "Jesus could conquor death." You're going to die, sweetie. Whatever you believe about what happens afterwards, you're still going to die. Just get over it.

Personally I don't see it. But that's me.

The day that I see someone's conversion story that ends with, "It led me to a perfect acceptance of myself as I was, and a love for people of all orientations, and a need to work for the protection of the earth that God has given us," then I'll take some notice.

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My Train Wreck Conversion [View all] LARED Feb 2013 OP

Thanks for this Freddie Feb 2013 #1

I don't think you read the article jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #3

Pretty disgusting jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #2

I encourage people who are interested in another kind of conversion story deutsey Feb 2013 #7

Somehow I missed the cure the gay part. LARED Feb 2013 #9

Yeah. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #11

You got away with this but you should delete it. cali Feb 2013 #15

Funny, "I got away it this." LARED Feb 2013 #18

I'll gladly try cali Feb 2013 #22

I did a web search on her right wing activism, and came up with LARED Feb 2013 #26

The article itself is rightwing activism. eomer Feb 2013 #46

The article advocates that homosexuality is a sin that Jesus can fix, can "make right by world". eomer Feb 2013 #41

+1!!! Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #29

No way! Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #27

I had no idea DU had some many mind readers. nt LARED Feb 2013 #30

I read the original article. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #32

I am sickened right now. won't say anything more cali Feb 2013 #43

+1 Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #51

Ditto Hepburn Feb 2013 #67

LOL. There are parts of the article that are *MORE* offensive than what OP posted!? Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 #60

See post 5 further down. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #63

There is no mind present to read, just some ignorant crap in simpleton's English. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #49

I had no idea that DU had people stupid in the teachings of Christ. nt William769 Feb 2013 #65

Re-read it, then. Particularly the mini-bio at the end MH1 Feb 2013 #71

"There are plenty of gay-friendly churches that won't try to drive out the Demon Gay" 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #10

"J, what if it is true? What if Jesus is a real and risen Lord? What if we are all in trouble?" Fumesucker Feb 2013 #4

Here's what you do jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #6

I understand, it happened to me, I was the rejected partner when my ex "found God" Fumesucker Feb 2013 #14

It's clear you are a-OK wit this "gay cure" crap. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #5

First you will need to explain how the former lesbian LARED Feb 2013 #13

Do I really need to? I think YOU have to explain how she did NOT become one. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #16

Yes, you really need to. LARED Feb 2013 #19

It's so self-evident it isn't even funny. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #21

I absolutely think that's ok LARED Feb 2013 #23

By praising this story, you're judging more than one person. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #24

Frankly that's the biggest load of horse pucky LARED Feb 2013 #28

Have a good self-righteous time. cali Feb 2013 #47

Was this posted to be a flame war? boston bean Feb 2013 #57

Knowing this poster's skepticscott Feb 2013 #58

Looks like you won't be getting back to this thread. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #148

How about the being gay is a sin part? Are you okay with that? n/t eomer Feb 2013 #66

She says homosexuality is sin BainsBane Feb 2013 #25

There's no such thing as a former lesbian, a confused bisexual I could buy... Humanist_Activist Feb 2013 #52

Well... LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #69

In case the OP self-deletes, this is what he posted: 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #8

I just voted to hide this. It's ugly, ugly, ugly. cali Feb 2013 #12

3-3. The Team sure sweated bullets to save this one. But it's OK. It will go to Admin. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #17

I sure the admin's just heaved a great sign of relief. LARED Feb 2013 #20

You have two options: Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #31

3) Deny and defend it against all evidence 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #38

Nope. 3 and 2 are identical. The article is homophobic, and you are defending it. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #39

Good point. There is NO third option. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #40

+1 idwiyo Feb 2013 #78

Bookmarking this taunt. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #62

I don't see the logic of how reading a book full of violence and oppression and Squinch Feb 2013 #33

There is a lot wrong here OKNancy Feb 2013 #34

It sounded like complete propaganda to me BainsBane Feb 2013 #36

Excellent post. pintobean Feb 2013 #42

thank you OKNancy Feb 2013 #45

Why is this poster here? cali Feb 2013 #54

+ a lot, Nancy and thanks. cali Feb 2013 #48

+1 pinto Feb 2013 #64

She asks jehop61 Feb 2013 #35

First, this story sounds like bullshit, and is common among many conversion stories... Humanist_Activist Feb 2013 #37

What, you don't think that "God sang a sanguine song" and cured her of the gay? Squinch Feb 2013 #44

Yeah, it comes of as a bad fan fic for conversion rather than an genuine story... Humanist_Activist Feb 2013 #50

I think that there is something psychologically potent in that language: Squinch Feb 2013 #53

I've never read The Bible and don't plan to. I do know a lot of it. I have no objection at all brewens Feb 2013 #55

As a Gay man and a Christian I find this OP contemptible William769 Feb 2013 #56

This is the response the OP should pay most attention to Dorian Gray Feb 2013 #61

I am sorry you have to deal with this crap again, and again, and again. idwiyo Feb 2013 #84

Poster has been shown the door. William769 Feb 2013 #86

Thank you!!! That's best and fastest PPR ever. (((Hugs))) idwiyo Feb 2013 #93

I agree entirely. okasha Feb 2013 #85

... William769 Feb 2013 #90

What if the bible is true? grantcart Feb 2013 #59

This dangerous and homophobic post is shameful and should not be allowed to myrna minx Feb 2013 #68

She sounds delusional MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #70

So where are all of the "liberal", "progressive" Christians skepticscott Feb 2013 #72

They think it's more important to poo-poo a newspaper scan that's maybe not genuine. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #73

Or to crank up the apologetics skepticscott Feb 2013 #77

Yes, people have. LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #88

LOTS of DUers have come and called this OP despicable. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #123

Nice try, but I'm not the one who made this divisive skepticscott Feb 2013 #129

Yeah. It's a Sunday morning. People are probably still either in bed kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #139

Oh, I've seen more than a few skepticscott Feb 2013 #141

LARED referenced an article by a woman who found the life that was right for her. Nowhere humblebum Feb 2013 #74

You're defending this shit? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2013 #96

I am defending the right of a person to choose the lifestyle that is right for them. humblebum Feb 2013 #107

Ah, so homosexuality is a choice? EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2013 #115

Being gay is NOT a lifestyle choice, as you well know. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #126

Sexual orientation is hardwired, not a "lifestyle". Have you seriously missed this point? uppityperson Feb 2013 #131

I disagree. I think her story is basically made up. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #125

This is a powerful testimony to homophobic bigotry one can get away with on DU. idwiyo Feb 2013 #75

Is that from a Chick Tract? nt Vanje Feb 2013 #76

a "powerful story" of praying away the gay? Coming to the conclusion that being gay is sinful? fishwax Feb 2013 #79

LARED has been PPR'd by admin muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #80

This thread should not be locked skepticscott Feb 2013 #81

Well, it wouldn't be deleted anyway - it was an admin PPR of a long term member muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #83

Yes still please lock. William769 Feb 2013 #82

I agree. I also sent an SOP alert for the hosts to consider. boston bean Feb 2013 #89

Thanks for the alert. William769 Feb 2013 #91

For the same reason skepticscott Feb 2013 #97

It wouldn't be deleted, just locked. boston bean Feb 2013 #100

Seems like it's very useful skepticscott Feb 2013 #104

well, there is a live one on the line now. boston bean Feb 2013 #110

It should be left for that very reason. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #132

Exactly.. skepticscott Feb 2013 #133

I still don't think so. boston bean Feb 2013 #134

Ooops, meant to reply #136 to you. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #137

Well, a stand HAS been taken skepticscott Feb 2013 #140

Well, I don't think my opinion has changed. boston bean Feb 2013 #142

For the record, I would, as a gay man, be one of the victims of this bigotry. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #136

Censorship of opinions that are not accepted by some does not reflect well upon DU. humblebum Feb 2013 #87

Really? boston bean Feb 2013 #92

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #94

Keep it up. I think a TOS event might be in your future as well. nt boston bean Feb 2013 #95

If that's the case then, let it be said that I strongly oppose censorship of alternative, humblebum Feb 2013 #105

You don't have the right of free speech on DU to post bigoted statements. boston bean Feb 2013 #106

And I think you should take that statement to heart. humblebum Feb 2013 #112

If you mean I'm bigoted against bigotry boston bean Feb 2013 #113

I am sorry, but there is no bigotry expressed in the article. In fact it describes nothing more humblebum Feb 2013 #116

So your opinion is skepticscott Feb 2013 #119

saying homosexuality is a sin, is not a bigoted statement? boston bean Feb 2013 #120

You might want to ask LARED how that served him. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #124

This �opinion� is hateful. okasha Feb 2013 #121

It is not an "alternative, non-harmful" opinion to suggest that being gay is sinful fishwax Feb 2013 #143

What is the gay lifestyle? Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #98

Anything like that "gay agenda" the GOP was so frightened of a few years back? nt MADem Feb 2013 #109

Usually it's code word for sexual acts the right-wing is too "delicate" to mention by name. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #130

"exactly" what Rosaria discovered? skepticscott Feb 2013 #101

Perhaps she discovered that she was not gay. That's what I see in the article. humblebum Feb 2013 #114

That is not what she said, so perhaps you're pulling crap from your buttocks. boston bean Feb 2013 #117

I'd say more like skepticscott Feb 2013 #118

Can I ask if you typed that with small heterosexual hands? Or large transgendered hands? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #102

yep, that line certainly stood out fishwax Feb 2013 #144

there damn well is bigotry in this op cali Feb 2013 #147

I vote for a lock EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2013 #99

I agree with you. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #103

Not sure I follow your thinking skepticscott Feb 2013 #111

It's a symbolic thing EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2013 #122

Well, I'd say the thing to do skepticscott Feb 2013 #127

I agree, but unfortunately there isn't a way to permanently delete it EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2013 #128

Highly offensive story about a fundie who prayed away the gay. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #108

The op haz a final du sad. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #135

Maybe he doesn't know yet. He was on his way out the door to church. boston bean Feb 2013 #138

well, at least someone skepticscott Feb 2013 #146

My Train Wreck Thread - weighed in in hosts group with vote to lock this. cbayer Feb 2013 #145

We're going to lock this muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #149