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BlueStreak

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28. In the end, what difference does it make?

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:47 AM

Feb 2013

Let's take for a premise that the religion-based view of an active god or gods is and always has been hogwash. We are still left with the question of how the universe got started. What was there before the big bang?

If you are not asserting there is a nanny god that decides the outcome of football games and decides who dies of cancer and who goes into remission, then what is the point?

We are here. Deal with it.

From a SCIENTIFIC point of view, I am certainly interested in any SCIENTIFIC insights into what could have preceded the big bang, or the possibility of multiple universes, etc. But that has nothing to do with any gods, unless you twist the word "science" into meaning "the ultimate god".

But that's BS as far as I'm concerned. All gods are and always have been the answer to the questions we fear and do not understand. I don't fear the beginning of the universe. It doesn't affect me.

My suggestion to anybody who takes this much time contemplating "gods" would be to just stop -- and go do something useful with your time instead.

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See that is a lot of the problem Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #15

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I do get very angry... trotsky Feb 2013 #41

Feel good about yourself skepticscott Feb 2013 #24

And still managed a dig at "non-religious bigots" who dare to question the Great One. mr blur Feb 2013 #27

And I don't even think he realizes skepticscott Feb 2013 #30

........... Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #31

In the end, what difference does it make? BlueStreak Feb 2013 #28

It would be a lot more fun Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #38

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Very, very close to what I mean. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #7

That brings me to rwo more questions,then. okasha Feb 2013 #13

Coextensive many be a limiting word. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #17

I thought you meant panentheism, okasha Feb 2013 #19

Try this definition from Tom Hayden Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #42

Thanks. okasha Feb 2013 #45

The problem is you're trying to pass off as some "new revelation of God" Leontius Feb 2013 #8

You got it ! Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #10

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I find the field you are describing fascinating. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #18

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Even if you accept that notion skepticscott Feb 2013 #23

I was talking about the human understanding of the nature of matter. Jim__ Feb 2013 #25

And that understanding skepticscott Feb 2013 #29

I hadn't heard of that before, but it seems right goldent Feb 2013 #34

May the Force be with you! backscatter712 Feb 2013 #14

The similarities have been remarked on before muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #52

For those who care, it's the first chapter of Colossians, not the second muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #21

Whoops! Typo. Of course it is Colossians 1 Thanks for trhe correction nt Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #40

However, you're still not addressing the problems of quoting a believer in the person of God muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #47

Colossians as two foci--parrticularly in this first poetic chapter. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #51

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Charles, you were right. I did "predict" you would say some of those things. SarahM32 Feb 2013 #32

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We shouldn't assume this isn't "Joseph Adamson" making the posts himself muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #35

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With that most recent post, it seems very likely to be Adamson himself. trotsky Feb 2013 #37

Indeed; I notice he's now taken the Adamson name off the bottom of the website pages muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #54

So with this I assume you have formally abandoned your first thread... trotsky Feb 2013 #39

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