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In reply to the discussion: The God problem (part 2) [View all]

Thats my opinion

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42. Try this definition from Tom Hayden
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:22 PM
Feb 2013

I’ve been rummaging around in a book written by Tom Hayden, an acquaintance from our radical Chicago days. Tom has never been known as a theologian, but his book, The Gospel of the Earth resonates with some of the things I have been trying to say recently. A quote or two:

We have abandoned the spirit of the natural world, for a sky God that is separate from the earth…The sacred earth is interchangeable with God …We divide grace from nature and spirit from matter at our peril ...Since God has acquired the image of a bearded gentlemen, a term like sacred, which revokes no human shape, seems more appropriate … Long ago the sacred was believed to reside on earth. Then came an era when God and the sacred were projected from earth to a glorious cloud. Today we need a sacred presence more than an absentee landlord.

Perhaps “the sacred presence in the living earth” is better than my term “energy.” At least it is closer to more traditional religious language. But we are saying much the same thing. Hayden calls this a sacred spiritual insight, and evokes religious saints from across the centuries to testify to its reality.

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The God problem (part 2) [View all] Thats my opinion Feb 2013 OP
This is not significantly different rrneck Feb 2013 #1
Everything is energy of one form or another Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #2
A D please reread Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #3
The problem I have with this that if you are trying to look at something in a different way Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #4
Significant statement ! Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #6
You are assuming that 'love' started with religion Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #9
Since most people use the word God with some sort of meaning Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #11
See that is a lot of the problem Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #15
A remarkable post Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #16
I do get very angry... trotsky Feb 2013 #41
Feel good about yourself skepticscott Feb 2013 #24
And still managed a dig at "non-religious bigots" who dare to question the Great One. mr blur Feb 2013 #27
And I don't even think he realizes skepticscott Feb 2013 #30
........... Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #31
In the end, what difference does it make? BlueStreak Feb 2013 #28
It would be a lot more fun Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #38
If I'm reading you correctly okasha Feb 2013 #5
Very, very close to what I mean. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #7
That brings me to rwo more questions,then. okasha Feb 2013 #13
Coextensive many be a limiting word. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #17
I thought you meant panentheism, okasha Feb 2013 #19
Try this definition from Tom Hayden Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #42
Thanks. okasha Feb 2013 #45
The problem is you're trying to pass off as some "new revelation of God" Leontius Feb 2013 #8
You got it ! Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #10
A great post for the Religion group goldent Feb 2013 #12
I find the field you are describing fascinating. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #18
There is a philosophical theory that is something like your idea about the nature of matter. Jim__ Feb 2013 #20
Even if you accept that notion skepticscott Feb 2013 #23
I was talking about the human understanding of the nature of matter. Jim__ Feb 2013 #25
And that understanding skepticscott Feb 2013 #29
I hadn't heard of that before, but it seems right goldent Feb 2013 #34
May the Force be with you! backscatter712 Feb 2013 #14
The similarities have been remarked on before muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #52
For those who care, it's the first chapter of Colossians, not the second muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #21
Whoops! Typo. Of course it is Colossians 1 Thanks for trhe correction nt Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #40
However, you're still not addressing the problems of quoting a believer in the person of God muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #47
Colossians as two foci--parrticularly in this first poetic chapter. Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #51
Perhaps you could explain again skepticscott Feb 2013 #22
Sounds like you are discribing "the ether" edhopper Feb 2013 #26
Charles, you were right. I did "predict" you would say some of those things. SarahM32 Feb 2013 #32
There's that phrase skepticscott Feb 2013 #33
We shouldn't assume this isn't "Joseph Adamson" making the posts himself muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #35
Exactly skepticscott Feb 2013 #36
With that most recent post, it seems very likely to be Adamson himself. trotsky Feb 2013 #37
Indeed; I notice he's now taken the Adamson name off the bottom of the website pages muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #54
So with this I assume you have formally abandoned your first thread... trotsky Feb 2013 #39
Hmm... Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #43
Please, TMO skepticscott Feb 2013 #44
Ancient history, literary criticism and Biblical indterpretation Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #46
It's even more amazing okasha Feb 2013 #49
Ok, perhaps you might elaborate. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #50
hate to say it but this was glaring. a sore thumb Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #53
Very interesting deutsey Feb 2013 #48
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