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In reply to the discussion: Concepts of God and Religion [View all]SarahM32
(270 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 19, 2013, 07:47 PM - Edit history (1)
All the uproar, confrontation, assumptions and accusations that we've seen on this thread were predictable in a forum infiltrated by those who come here to scoff and sneer at religion and God, not to rationally and reasonably discuss it.
But they are particularly opposed to the article cited on the OP, Concepts of God and Religion, and The Nature of God, because that article is part of a comprehensive message purported to be divinely inspired and declaring prophetic prerogative and divine mandate.
It's no surprise and no wonder, then, that most people question it, and many criticize it, reject it, dismiss it, and deny that is reveals the truth, that it is the "apocalypsis eschaton," the "revelation at the end of the age" that fulfills world prophecies.
Therefore, I expect people to have questions, concerns and even criticism. However, on this thread the critical comments have been shockingly void of legitimate, honest or reasonable critiques of the article in the OP, or of the overall message of which it is a part. Most of the criticism is based on false assumptions that are erroneous, unwarranted and unfounded, and some of the criticisms are just false claims and accusations.
It is probably no coincidence that the criticism of Atheists here is similar, not in content but in attitude and tone, to the criticism of the message whenever it has been promoted or advocated on forums inhabited by right-wing fundamentalist Christian Dominionists, who also hate it. In fact, hypocritical religious Theocrats of every stripe hate it just as Atheists hate it, because it expresses a world view that exposes the error of their divisive, antagonistic beliefs.
The Atheist critics on this thread may not always be so bad. I've noticed that on some other threads they are more reasonable. But the more I have stood up to them the more they have become like intellectual bullies, so desperate to try to silence me that they persist in their false assumptions and false accusations even though I have proven them to be wrong. Facts and words of truth do not deter them. They simply ignore them, or misinterpret them or twist them, in rather frenzied blind opposition.
The most persistent false assumption and false accusation is that the author of the message I promote seeks to recruit members to a cult. But, as I have repeatedly shown, that is utterly ridiculous to anyone who has read and understands the message.
The very idea of a cult is totally ridiculous if you consider these following questions:
What if I were the Webmaster of the All Faiths Coalition for Peace, Freedom and Justice (AFCPFJ) site? What if I were the only person promoting it, under different user names? And what if the message is designed to BUILD an All Faiths Coalition for Peace, Freedom and Justice, and there IS NO Coalition yet?
That makes the false accusation of it being a cult pretty ridiculous, doesnt it?
Im not saying thats the case, though, because as is stated on the site, it was created to preserve, edit and update message highlights that had been on the authors own site, which was shut down on December 21, 2011. And even though I could be the person who launched the site to preserve the authors message, I may merely be an individual who has recognized the truth in the message, studied it very thoroughly, and promotes it because I recognize its potential.
In the final analysis, though, it doesnt matter. Such concern is irrelevant. The message is not about establishing a leader in person, and its not about favoring one religion over others, or about creating a new religion or a new religious sect.
The original Coalition site makes that clear as well. It was originally called The Coalition of Jews, Christians and Muslims for Peace (CJCMP) before the author shut down his own site, and after that it was called The All Faiths Coalition for Peace, Freedom and Justice, which opened the new messenger dot cjcmp site.
The original Coalition site says:
The Spirit of truth comes not to condemn, but to educate; not to punish, but to correct; and not to destroy, but to save.
To put an end to the conflict and division, we must face two crucial facts: 1) What passes for democracy in this world is not producing truly representative government, but instead produces conflict and division; and 2) Freedom of religion means that all religions must be regarded as equal by our governments.
Even the simple title and lead paragraphs in the header of the messenger and message site shows what its about.
One World, One Family of United Nations, Races and Religions
A Creative View of the Future Through the Lens of History, Universal Prophecies and Reason
This message serves the Spirit of truth by promoting the general welfare; religious tolerance; peace; freedom and justice; and showing a way for the people to take the ultimate peaceful political action to liberate, empower and unite our selves, once and for all, so that our governments will be of, by and for the people and use the common wealth for the common good, in accordance with universal world prophecies and Divine Providence.
Atheists dont like it, though, because the header also includes the following paragraph:
In order for the generous, humble, kind, peaceful and meek majority of human beings to inherit the earth, a righteous judgment must intercede on their behalf. This message provides that judgment according to prophetic prerogative and divine mandate, and it exposes and corrects those who have caused the problems and live in extravagant luxury at our expense while we, the people, are denied our divine inheritance and birthright.
Most people, whether they are religious or not, have rejected that premise. They think it is audacious and absurd for anyone to declare prophetic prerogative and divine mandate. And thats why the message is still rejected by the messengers generation.
That was predictable, and it was predicted.
"The days will come when people will want to see one of the days of the son of man, and they shall not see it. So they will look here and there, but do not follow them. For as the lightning lightens all parts under heaven, so shall also the [work of the] son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected by his generation." Jesus, according to Luke 17:20-25
Jesus was not speaking of himself in that instance, because Jesus suffered only on the last day of his life, not first or beforehand, but only after he had completed his mission. Furthermore, Jesus was accepted by multitudes of Jews, Greeks and others in his generation. (And by the way, the "lightning" refers to electronic communications on the Internet.)
The fact, believe it or not, is that God has sent a man to deliver a righteous judgment to intercede on behalf of the humble, gentle, kind, generous, peaceful and meek people of the world, and especially the poor and the working poor, by exposing and rebuking the religious and political leadership of the world and all others who think that their wealth or religion or nationality or race entitles them to rule.
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