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trotsky

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52. You're slipping, s4p.

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:57 PM

Feb 2013

You aren't even reading your own Googlicious links.

From the first one:
The death has provoked outrage in the country, with human rights activists demanding justice for Hena and an end to the use of religion to deliver justice. Yesterday, rallies and human chains were formed in support of her.

From the second:
The court also asked to explain what measures the local administration had taken to resist Hena’s killing, in line with a previous HC verdict regarding false religious decrees (fatwa).

From the third:
On January 24, villagers administered the 101 lashes on her after local madrasa teacher Saidur Rahman and mosque Imam Md Mafiz Uddin issued a decree in this regard.

And the fourth:
Fifteen-year-old Hena was flogged to death following a fatwa (religious edict) at Chamta in Naria, Shariatpur in January.

The fifth and sixth are even worse pathetic grabs at straws, trying to suggest that the people involved weren't "truly" following their faith.

While you're busy imagining (your own word!) an alternative version of events, a girl is dead because of religious beliefs and religious tradition. It's absolutely disgusting that you seek to defend the murderers rather than the victim. How much lower can you stoop to defend religion?

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Only 14, Bangladeshi girl charged with adultery was lashed to death [View all] skepticscott Feb 2013 OP

sick...an abused child murdered because she was abused noiretextatique Feb 2013 #1

And because skepticscott Feb 2013 #2

Yes. Because of EXACTLY THAT. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #4

Which religion and which god? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #5

Yeah we just executed them until 2005, and only then by a 5-4 decision did we stop. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #6

Massive differences to be sure, but feel free to keep up the strawman ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #11

Deuteronomy 22:22. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #13

I guess your reading of these texts would make you a good rightwing fundamentalist, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #19

The point is that our two versions of the abrahamic religions are not all that different from Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #24

I never made any claim about "the abrahamic religions" nor about any supposed "islamic version" struggle4progress Feb 2013 #40

Uh, no "church" flogs children skepticscott Feb 2013 #9

Regularly? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #10

No, they don't kill children "regularly" skepticscott Feb 2013 #12

Yes. Regularly. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #15

the article said it was a Mosque, not a church, and Xings have beaten children to death.. >Link rabid_byter Feb 2013 #78

yes: religious insanity noiretextatique Feb 2013 #90

Sickening, just fucking sickening. EvilAL Feb 2013 #3

I hope her murderers have no peace get the red out Feb 2013 #27

They deserve absolutely no peace, none! EvilAL Feb 2013 #74

There are certainly a variety of issues here. One issue is extrajudicial punishment, which struggle4progress Feb 2013 #7

Apologetics by Google..well done skepticscott Feb 2013 #8

Two years after, we can probably do more here than simply repost the story struggle4progress Feb 2013 #14

You will find skepticscott Feb 2013 #17

Fatal whipping exposes Bangladesh�s fatwa crimes struggle4progress Feb 2013 #20

And if we look at an even bigger picture... Meshuga Feb 2013 #28

It looks as if the Bushbots had lost control by 2008: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #61

Very few people on DU would think that religiously-motivated violence is acceptable LeftishBrit Mar 2013 #98

Yes, complex issues. Complex RELIGIOUS issues. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #16

Perhaps you meant to reply to skepticscott, who actually used the word "complex," struggle4progress Feb 2013 #18

Here is my current assessment of the incident: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #23

Your tireless efforts to absolve religious beliefs of any possible role in this (and other) trotsky Feb 2013 #25

While sticking one's head in the sand to make one feel better about the reality of the situation cleanhippie Feb 2013 #29

I've provided fifteen or twenty links to news stories relevant to the case, enabling anyone struggle4progress Feb 2013 #36

I posted that link in response to a specific question. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #37

I've provided fifteen or twenty links to news stories relevant to the case, together with struggle4progress Feb 2013 #41

You should know by now Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #75

Personal attacks don't help anything, Charles. trotsky Feb 2013 #76

Of course, there is a very dark side to religion, Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #81

I dunno, I've given you multiple opportunities... trotsky Feb 2013 #82

EVERYTHING you've written? skepticscott Feb 2013 #93

The only religious aspect okasha Feb 2013 #77

Gender Justice: Is Bangladesh Ignoring �Fatwa� Violence Against Women? struggle4progress Feb 2013 #21

What we know so far: these events occurred two years ago, in a tiny Bangladeshi village without struggle4progress Feb 2013 #22

What does the Pakistani High Court have to do with it? trotsky Feb 2013 #26

What does this article have to do with Religion? Nothing grantcart Feb 2013 #30

Which ideology were those assassins following? trotsky Feb 2013 #31

Your lack of irony in regards to your name notwithstanding your grantcart Feb 2013 #51

NTS is all you've got? trotsky Feb 2013 #53

"Christian Bible" grantcart Feb 2013 #57

I'm going to respond without using the vicious personal attacks that you are engaging in. trotsky Feb 2013 #58

Thanks for the correction. It was a careless mistake of mine: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #32

And yet despite court rulings... trotsky Feb 2013 #33

I've provided links supporting the following account of events: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #42

The advantage I have is the truth. trotsky Feb 2013 #46

If you can build a coherent case for your view, based on such facts, as might be actually available struggle4progress Feb 2013 #48

You mean like the facts reported by CNN? trotsky Feb 2013 #50

One ought to be able to sort out conflicting claims: for example, the report you are citing asserts struggle4progress Feb 2013 #62

And yet not one of those discrepancies does a thing to dispel the central issue being discussed: trotsky Feb 2013 #66

... Hena Akhter (also known as Hena Begum), died six days after being lashed ... A village court struggle4progress Feb 2013 #34

Thanks for the update. okasha Feb 2013 #35

I've posted what I could find easily from standard news sources struggle4progress Feb 2013 #38

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #39

Gee, wouldn't it have been nice skepticscott Feb 2013 #43

Perhaps you could make your best case that this was actually religiously motivated, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #44

Start here skepticscott Feb 2013 #45

A number of accounts indicate that the venue was some sort of extrajudical "village court" struggle4progress Feb 2013 #47

Apologetics by Google 2.0 skepticscott Feb 2013 #49

I provided nearly two dozen links in a careful effort to determine what we know. struggle4progress Feb 2013 #55

No, you provided two dozen links skepticscott Feb 2013 #59

I say: facts first, analysis second. You would have it the other way around, it seems struggle4progress Feb 2013 #63

I would characterize your "argument" skepticscott Feb 2013 #65

They started beating on the girl before they had organized their cover story struggle4progress Feb 2013 #89

You're slipping, s4p. trotsky Feb 2013 #52

You'd better get busy... trotsky Feb 2013 #54

And as long as I'm making a task list for you, trotsky Feb 2013 #56

The "fantasy" in my #47 can be supported by links, with only minimal interpolation: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #64

"minimal interpolation"?!? trotsky Feb 2013 #67

Do you know (say) what religious position Idris Member holds? struggle4progress Feb 2013 #68

Can a person be motivated by religious beliefs without holding a religious position? trotsky Feb 2013 #69

The usual Islamic use of "fatwa" refers to an opinion by someone trained in their canon law, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #70

You didn't answer the question. trotsky Feb 2013 #71

Now let's turn to "Shilpi's brother Akkas Meermalot" struggle4progress Feb 2013 #72

Answer my questions. trotsky Feb 2013 #73

Let us now examine your quote: "When .. a so called religious leader .. gives an edict .. most struggle4progress Feb 2013 #85

Until you answer my questions, I don't really care how you choose to defend the murderers. trotsky Feb 2013 #86

And in my experience, you still wouldn't care if I answered your silly questions struggle4progress Feb 2013 #87

On the contrary, I'd love answers. trotsky Feb 2013 #88

Religiously, Bangladesh is about 90% Muslim and about 9% Hindu. It has universal suffrage. In 2008, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #60

Evidently, the Muslims still running the country like in the middle ages demosincebirth Feb 2013 #79

Personally, I'd be quite pleased if we could get 3/4 of the seats in the US Congress filled struggle4progress Feb 2013 #80

Reallly? I guess you haven't read the new in the last few years. If calling "bigoty, demosincebirth Feb 2013 #83

Since you reach sweeping conclusions about the 140+ million Muslims in Bangladesh, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #84

As I find yours nt demosincebirth Feb 2013 #91

Because I don't reach conclusions about 140+ million folk from the actions of 14 or so? struggle4progress Feb 2013 #92

Don't be fatuous Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #94

Bangladesh is the most densely inhabited country in the world with a population over half struggle4progress Mar 2013 #95

Try to keep up with the converseation please Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #96

Naturally, we should take seriously whatever AI says about human rights issues, including rates struggle4progress Mar 2013 #97

It's not the government that did this LeftishBrit Mar 2013 #99