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muriel_volestrangler

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13. That would, however, be a complete mischaracterisation of the law
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:19 AM
Feb 2013

and we know that, because it's used against private individuals, such as the 14 year old mentioned in the OP.

The law is a bit of pandering to religious fanatics; look at its effect - people get killed by renegade guards, mobs, or in prison. It's not a convenient way of attacking political opponents; it's a way of allowing mob rule to attack people that they hate for religious reasons. The law has widespread support in the religious lunatic faction in Pakistan, which is considerable. Look at the support the killer of the governor got:

Mr. RASHID: Well, a very large number of lawyers have sided with the killer. They more than 1,000 lawyers have signed up to defend Muhammad Mumtaz Qadri, the police official who shot Salman Taseer 26 times a few days ago. Liberal lawyers are horrified by what has happened, but they are very quiet because everybody now is very scared.

One of the religious extremist organizations issued a threat to the daughter of Salman Taseer because she had given an interview to the BBC and she had written an article, and one of these religious groups issued a death threat to her. And this religious leader has not been arrested and likewise, all those defending the killer, there's been no action taken against them.

INSKEEP: I want to make sure I clarify what we're talking about here, because if you're a lawyer, obviously any defendant is entitled to a defense, is entitled to a lawyer. That's part of the legal system. Are you saying these 1,000 lawyers who've signed up on behalf of the defendant are going beyond legal advocacy here?

Mr. RASHID: Well, yes, because what they're doing is that they're expressing their political point of view, which is that they believe that the killer was totally justified in killing the governor. And they're expressing their support for the killer and they're expressing their support for what he said, which was I stand by the blasphemy law. I'm a slave of the Prophet Mohammed and I will do whatever he says. Now those few words that he uttered as he was being put into a police car is what has really motivated these lawyers to defend him.

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/14/132924332/Pakistani-Lawyers-Make-Governors-Assassin-A-Hero


This is about religion. It's pointless for you to try and makes excuses about it. No-one believes you.

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And as expected, crickets from the theists. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #1
Hey, it's a very "complex" issue skepticscott Feb 2013 #2
I expect everyone here opposes criminalization of religious or irreligious views, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #4
Even if "everyone here" does oppose that skepticscott Feb 2013 #5
The military dictatorship added the blasphemy law to the Constitution in 1986, so one can struggle4progress Feb 2013 #6
And how would they have justified skepticscott Feb 2013 #8
They wouldn't have justified a blasphemy law... LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #10
Well, unless Allah or Mohammed skepticscott Feb 2013 #11
Your framing is most unwise: no one in Pakistan, for example, could argue against the blasphemy struggle4progress Feb 2013 #12
That would, however, be a complete mischaracterisation of the law muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #13
Human Rights First Submission to the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights struggle4progress Feb 2013 #14
Your political analysis seems naive to me. It is, first of all, entirely clear that politicians struggle4progress Feb 2013 #15
"it is to argue that the real object of the blasphemy law is not actually to fight blasphemy" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #16
How to commit blasphemy in Pakistan struggle4progress Feb 2013 #17
Nice try, but without religion, there is no blasphemy. trotsky Feb 2013 #18
"overwhelmingly being used to persecute religious minorities and settle personal vendettas" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #19
You omit to notice that the law requires government action for its operation and struggle4progress Feb 2013 #20
"your intervention in this thread seems to be an attempt to divert blame away from the religious.." cleanhippie Mar 2013 #23
Reagan legacy lingers in Afghanistan, Pakistan struggle4progress Feb 2013 #7
Pakistan ambassador to US faces blasphemy probe struggle4progress Feb 2013 #3
It's about theocratic religion LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #9
The Kafkaesque reality of Pakistan's blasphemy laws struggle4progress Mar 2013 #21
Without religion, there is no blasphemy. trotsky Mar 2013 #22
Vague laws, operating opaquely, so that the accused may never even know the alleged factual basis struggle4progress Mar 2013 #24
And yet without religion, there is no blasphemy. trotsky Mar 2013 #25
And ... there would be no blasphemy laws if there were no laws! struggle4progress Mar 2013 #26
And yet in the end, without religion, there can be no blasphemy. trotsky Mar 2013 #27
I expect you'll never be troubled by having too many ideas or by the resulting problem struggle4progress Mar 2013 #28
I guess the only thing you have left now is to insult my intelligence. trotsky Mar 2013 #30
*snork* struggle4progress Mar 2013 #33
Pastor in Pakistan Released on Bail After Blasphemy Accuser Admits to Mistake struggle4progress Mar 2013 #29
... trotsky Mar 2013 #31
The prosecution here refused to drop the case after the complaint was withdrawn: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #32
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