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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
67. "minimal interpolation"?!?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:04 AM
Feb 2013

You are grasping at every straw you can find in order to justify a version of events that clears religious beliefs of ANY responsibility in this incident.

I have used YOUR OWN LINKS to reaffirm the role of religion in this tragedy. You've ignored that because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Let me ask you something, s4p: if religious beliefs DIDN'T play a role, then are you saying that truly religious people can't do bad deeds? That evil only comes from non-believers or those who discard religious teachings? Let's hear it. Put it out there for all to see.

(BTW, others should know your little summary there is engaging in a lot of editorial artistry. Like saying it was just "the village elders" and ignoring IN YOUR OWN LINKS the statements that religious leaders were involved.)

Here's some more quotes from your links that reaffirm that religion DID play a role:
"imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment"
"The imam pronounced his fatwa."
"Next day, a fatwa was announced at a village arbitration"
"Idris Member, an architect of the fatwa"
"Shilpi's brother Akkas Meermalot wasted no time to mention that it should be done in accordance with Islamic law."
"Religious courts where fatwa or religious edicts are pronounced informally exist in almost every village across the country. When an imam of a mosque or a so called religious leader in a village gives an edict, simple God- fearing people, as most villagers are, are forced to accept it."

We can go on as long as you like. You seek to whitewash history, to excuse religion from any possible role in this incident. I choose to face facts and admit that religion DID play a role. The facts are on my side. Now address the points I made in the previous posts above.

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sick...an abused child murdered because she was abused noiretextatique Feb 2013 #1
And because skepticscott Feb 2013 #2
Yes. Because of EXACTLY THAT. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #4
Which religion and which god? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #5
Yeah we just executed them until 2005, and only then by a 5-4 decision did we stop. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #6
Massive differences to be sure, but feel free to keep up the strawman ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #11
Deuteronomy 22:22. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #13
I guess your reading of these texts would make you a good rightwing fundamentalist, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #19
The point is that our two versions of the abrahamic religions are not all that different from Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #24
I never made any claim about "the abrahamic religions" nor about any supposed "islamic version" struggle4progress Feb 2013 #40
Uh, no "church" flogs children skepticscott Feb 2013 #9
Regularly? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #10
No, they don't kill children "regularly" skepticscott Feb 2013 #12
Yes. Regularly. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #15
the article said it was a Mosque, not a church, and Xings have beaten children to death.. >Link rabid_byter Feb 2013 #78
yes: religious insanity noiretextatique Feb 2013 #90
Sickening, just fucking sickening. EvilAL Feb 2013 #3
I hope her murderers have no peace get the red out Feb 2013 #27
They deserve absolutely no peace, none! EvilAL Feb 2013 #74
There are certainly a variety of issues here. One issue is extrajudicial punishment, which struggle4progress Feb 2013 #7
Apologetics by Google..well done skepticscott Feb 2013 #8
Two years after, we can probably do more here than simply repost the story struggle4progress Feb 2013 #14
You will find skepticscott Feb 2013 #17
Fatal whipping exposes Bangladesh’s fatwa crimes struggle4progress Feb 2013 #20
And if we look at an even bigger picture... Meshuga Feb 2013 #28
It looks as if the Bushbots had lost control by 2008: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #61
Very few people on DU would think that religiously-motivated violence is acceptable LeftishBrit Mar 2013 #98
Yes, complex issues. Complex RELIGIOUS issues. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #16
Perhaps you meant to reply to skepticscott, who actually used the word "complex," struggle4progress Feb 2013 #18
Here is my current assessment of the incident: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #23
Your tireless efforts to absolve religious beliefs of any possible role in this (and other) trotsky Feb 2013 #25
While sticking one's head in the sand to make one feel better about the reality of the situation cleanhippie Feb 2013 #29
I've provided fifteen or twenty links to news stories relevant to the case, enabling anyone struggle4progress Feb 2013 #36
I posted that link in response to a specific question. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #37
I've provided fifteen or twenty links to news stories relevant to the case, together with struggle4progress Feb 2013 #41
You should know by now Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #75
Personal attacks don't help anything, Charles. trotsky Feb 2013 #76
Of course, there is a very dark side to religion, Thats my opinion Feb 2013 #81
I dunno, I've given you multiple opportunities... trotsky Feb 2013 #82
EVERYTHING you've written? skepticscott Feb 2013 #93
The only religious aspect okasha Feb 2013 #77
Gender Justice: Is Bangladesh Ignoring ‘Fatwa’ Violence Against Women? struggle4progress Feb 2013 #21
What we know so far: these events occurred two years ago, in a tiny Bangladeshi village without struggle4progress Feb 2013 #22
What does the Pakistani High Court have to do with it? trotsky Feb 2013 #26
What does this article have to do with Religion? Nothing grantcart Feb 2013 #30
Which ideology were those assassins following? trotsky Feb 2013 #31
Your lack of irony in regards to your name notwithstanding your grantcart Feb 2013 #51
NTS is all you've got? trotsky Feb 2013 #53
"Christian Bible" grantcart Feb 2013 #57
I'm going to respond without using the vicious personal attacks that you are engaging in. trotsky Feb 2013 #58
Thanks for the correction. It was a careless mistake of mine: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #32
And yet despite court rulings... trotsky Feb 2013 #33
I've provided links supporting the following account of events: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #42
The advantage I have is the truth. trotsky Feb 2013 #46
If you can build a coherent case for your view, based on such facts, as might be actually available struggle4progress Feb 2013 #48
You mean like the facts reported by CNN? trotsky Feb 2013 #50
One ought to be able to sort out conflicting claims: for example, the report you are citing asserts struggle4progress Feb 2013 #62
And yet not one of those discrepancies does a thing to dispel the central issue being discussed: trotsky Feb 2013 #66
... Hena Akhter (also known as Hena Begum), died six days after being lashed ... A village court struggle4progress Feb 2013 #34
Thanks for the update. okasha Feb 2013 #35
I've posted what I could find easily from standard news sources struggle4progress Feb 2013 #38
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #39
Gee, wouldn't it have been nice skepticscott Feb 2013 #43
Perhaps you could make your best case that this was actually religiously motivated, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #44
Start here skepticscott Feb 2013 #45
A number of accounts indicate that the venue was some sort of extrajudical "village court" struggle4progress Feb 2013 #47
Apologetics by Google 2.0 skepticscott Feb 2013 #49
I provided nearly two dozen links in a careful effort to determine what we know. struggle4progress Feb 2013 #55
No, you provided two dozen links skepticscott Feb 2013 #59
I say: facts first, analysis second. You would have it the other way around, it seems struggle4progress Feb 2013 #63
I would characterize your "argument" skepticscott Feb 2013 #65
They started beating on the girl before they had organized their cover story struggle4progress Feb 2013 #89
You're slipping, s4p. trotsky Feb 2013 #52
You'd better get busy... trotsky Feb 2013 #54
And as long as I'm making a task list for you, trotsky Feb 2013 #56
The "fantasy" in my #47 can be supported by links, with only minimal interpolation: struggle4progress Feb 2013 #64
"minimal interpolation"?!? trotsky Feb 2013 #67
Do you know (say) what religious position Idris Member holds? struggle4progress Feb 2013 #68
Can a person be motivated by religious beliefs without holding a religious position? trotsky Feb 2013 #69
The usual Islamic use of "fatwa" refers to an opinion by someone trained in their canon law, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #70
You didn't answer the question. trotsky Feb 2013 #71
Now let's turn to "Shilpi's brother Akkas Meermalot" struggle4progress Feb 2013 #72
Answer my questions. trotsky Feb 2013 #73
Let us now examine your quote: "When .. a so called religious leader .. gives an edict .. most struggle4progress Feb 2013 #85
Until you answer my questions, I don't really care how you choose to defend the murderers. trotsky Feb 2013 #86
And in my experience, you still wouldn't care if I answered your silly questions struggle4progress Feb 2013 #87
On the contrary, I'd love answers. trotsky Feb 2013 #88
Religiously, Bangladesh is about 90% Muslim and about 9% Hindu. It has universal suffrage. In 2008, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #60
Evidently, the Muslims still running the country like in the middle ages demosincebirth Feb 2013 #79
Personally, I'd be quite pleased if we could get 3/4 of the seats in the US Congress filled struggle4progress Feb 2013 #80
Reallly? I guess you haven't read the new in the last few years. If calling "bigoty, demosincebirth Feb 2013 #83
Since you reach sweeping conclusions about the 140+ million Muslims in Bangladesh, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #84
As I find yours nt demosincebirth Feb 2013 #91
Because I don't reach conclusions about 140+ million folk from the actions of 14 or so? struggle4progress Feb 2013 #92
Don't be fatuous Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #94
Bangladesh is the most densely inhabited country in the world with a population over half struggle4progress Mar 2013 #95
Try to keep up with the converseation please Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #96
Naturally, we should take seriously whatever AI says about human rights issues, including rates struggle4progress Mar 2013 #97
It's not the government that did this LeftishBrit Mar 2013 #99
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