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Humanist_Activist

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58. At least humanism is a coherent ethical philosophy and worldview, neither atheism or theism...

Mon Mar 4, 2013, 04:36 PM

Mar 2013

are those. Now, to be more specific I'm a secular humanism, by default, because I don't have religion, however, there are religious humanists, because humanism, in general, isn't exclusive.

People make assumptions about an extremely narrow topic, theism, because they broaden it out, erroneously, to other topics that have no bearing on the position itself. Usually this is related to the larger culture, people assume if someone says they believe in a god, its the Christian god, at least in the United States, if you asked someone in India, the answer would be distinctly different.

Its a very narrow topic, and people's positions on that topic aren't very descriptive on a personal level. You can even be a theist towards a particular god and not worship them, because those are two different things. Maltheists would be an example of this, they are theists, yes, but they also think god is a bastard who doesn't deserve worship.

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It's a big, fat myth that all scientists are religion-hating atheists [View all] cbayer Mar 2013 OP

I wouldnt trust a scientist that's religious RedstDem Mar 2013 #1

Did you read the article? cbayer Mar 2013 #2

yeah, I read it RedstDem Mar 2013 #5

You do offend and you have no more evidence that it is made up shit cbayer Mar 2013 #7

thank you RedstDem Mar 2013 #9

First off, you have no idea how many gods I may or may not believe in. cbayer Mar 2013 #11

Gee whiz, well then, by golly, why don't you alert? 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #60

If I were to alert on everything that was merely offensive, I cbayer Mar 2013 #61

You'd hope any doctor would leave the religious belief at home, though muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #22

I think that most religious scientists also leave their beliefs at home. cbayer Mar 2013 #23

If there is no conflict between science, reason skepticscott Mar 2013 #66

Yes, Newton was such an illogical ass. Jim__ Mar 2013 #3

newton, when he wasn't inventing modern physics, was an amazing nutjob. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #4

Galileo as well. Shall we go on? cbayer Mar 2013 #6

with galileo it bothers me that he was imprisoned sure Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #65

Of course many of the early scientists were religious. Big Blue Marble Mar 2013 #24

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner Silent3 Mar 2013 #67

I had a Sunday school teacher who worked on the Manhattan Project as a nuclear physicist. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #31

I am very accepting of people of faith RedstDem Mar 2013 #45

That is quite different. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #54

I'm happy to fit the stereotype nicely.... mike_c Mar 2013 #8

I have a few problems with this. longship Mar 2013 #10

While the numbers of non-believers in the scientific community is certainly cbayer Mar 2013 #14

It depends upon the discipline. longship Mar 2013 #17

Depends on what's being measured. SwissTony Mar 2013 #19

what's the difference between that and belief in "god"...? mike_c Mar 2013 #27

To you and me, nothing. SwissTony Mar 2013 #48

The God that tells you not to bang the neighbor's wife is different than the "unicorn God" Kolesar Mar 2013 #51

There is definitely a significant difference between the scientific community cbayer Mar 2013 #20

They have "faith" that these things work skepticscott Mar 2013 #34

There's a big difference in belief in God muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #18

Agree and I don't find that surprising at all. cbayer Mar 2013 #25

Who exactly made this claim? Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #12

A lovely dispatch of a straw man. trotsky Mar 2013 #13

It's also a big, fat myth skepticscott Mar 2013 #15

Is it a myth the liberal atheists are sarcastic jackasses? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #33

You need to turn on skepticscott Mar 2013 #36

I make no pretenses about... Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #38

Turn the irony meter skepticscott Mar 2013 #41

Yeah. I think I'm recognizing a doooooozie! Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #42

I know plenty of religious scientists--and I don't know a single atheist who is "anti-wonder"-- Moonwalk Mar 2013 #16

Moonwalk, longship Mar 2013 #21

Great post and I agree with much of what you say, cbayer Mar 2013 #26

Someone actually wrote a whole book skepticscott Mar 2013 #32

I would like to point out Drale Mar 2013 #28

Fascinating POV, Drale. cbayer Mar 2013 #30

A Free Thinker Drale Mar 2013 #37

Part of the problem with the atheist/theist divide is that so many people, cbayer Mar 2013 #39

Its not an atheist/theist divide in his case, but more religious/irreligious divide... Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #56

Again, further argument for why the simplistic labels become increasingly cbayer Mar 2013 #57

At least humanism is a coherent ethical philosophy and worldview, neither atheism or theism... Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #58

Of course the one you believe in is a coherent ethical philosophy to you, cbayer Mar 2013 #59

I find it more coherent than what I was raised in, a variation of... Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #62

Makes sense. cbayer Mar 2013 #63

And atheist an theist can co-exist in the same congregation Meshuga Mar 2013 #68

Just one example from first hand experience, fwiw - my uncle. pinto Mar 2013 #29

Sounds like a fascinating guy. cbayer Mar 2013 #35

Since you acknowledge that skepticscott Mar 2013 #40

I don't think he did either. From our talks he seemed to find it a non-issue. pinto Mar 2013 #44

Proving once again that apples fall from apple trees, because you are a lot like him. cbayer Mar 2013 #46

The reality is that one need only find one credible, religious scientist to flush the entire myth. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #43

Agree. It's just a meme that no true scientist could find data to back up. cbayer Mar 2013 #47

The reality is skepticscott Mar 2013 #49

Woohoo! We have permission to proceed. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #50

Yes, you have "permission" skepticscott Mar 2013 #52

The obscure references in the first two paragraphs made for a bad read Kolesar Mar 2013 #53

Feel free to do whatever you want, lol! cbayer Mar 2013 #55

scientists being religious, and the compatibility of science and religion Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #64

I don't think they are entirely separate at all. cbayer Mar 2013 #69

I've got news for you: Zoeisright Mar 2013 #70

Who in the world dismissed science? cbayer Mar 2013 #72

Only an idiot would believe in this "myth" in the first place. Evoman Mar 2013 #71