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64. In other words, you're acknowledging that

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 10:00 PM

Mar 2013

Fortinbras Armstrong lied and made up a false quote. Why don't you give us the EXACT quote, in context, instead of made up fibs, and then we can discuss its accuracy.

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For the real cowards, the best of Dawkins. [View all] cleanhippie Mar 2013 OP

AMEN! He's gone front and center on the world stage! backscatter712 Mar 2013 #1

When I see so-called "rational" people here on DU calling him a coward... cleanhippie Mar 2013 #2

Oh, he is not a coward Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #3

Says the anonymous poster skepticscott Mar 2013 #4

I notice that you have not published your real name Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #7

I noticed that the atheists did not take up my challenge to post their real names Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #35

Maybe it's because skepticscott Mar 2013 #41

In other words, you challenged me to post my real name Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #44

What a stupid fucking post. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #84

Translation: Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #96

Your accusations of bigotry are based on lies skepticscott Mar 2013 #100

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Here's the fallacy skepticscott Mar 2013 #102

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Project much? cleanhippie Mar 2013 #5

I do not see him as a bigot but as intelligent advocate of atheism. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #6

He is not an "intelligent critic of religion" Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #8

You make fair points. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #9

He does not make fair points at all. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #12

Debate him and tell him where he is wrong. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #13

Debating him is like debating Ken Ham or Ray Comfort. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #14

Have you debated him before. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #15

I've tried. As have others. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #16

I do debate with others. Have I never not been polite to you. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #17

Perhaps I am just being defensive... cleanhippie Mar 2013 #18

Cleanhippie I never wanted to make you an enemy. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #19

I'm not your enemy. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #20

Glad to hear it. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #21

He won't debate me, because he knows that he is supporting ignorant bigotry Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #45

Citation needed... backscatter712 Mar 2013 #49

Please note, he didn't explain why he thinks Dawkins is a bigot. trotsky Mar 2013 #26

I thought that repeatedly quoting Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #50

Except that wasn't a quote from Dawkins...you made it up skepticscott Mar 2013 #57

Link to where Dawkins says those exact words. Go ahead. Do it. trotsky Mar 2013 #58

While your "quote" is not exactly the words of Richard Dawkins it is the essential point he makes Leontius Mar 2013 #61

In other words, you're acknowledging that skepticscott Mar 2013 #64

Odious as the physical abuse of children by priests undoubtedly is, I suspect that it may Leontius Mar 2013 #67

In other words, you're acknowledging that skepticscott Mar 2013 #68

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+1 cleanhippie Mar 2013 #11

You're creating a strawman. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #22

Such hatred and intolerance is rooted in ignorance. Were he to actually READ Dawkins... cleanhippie Mar 2013 #23

Reading might not be a problem... rexcat Mar 2013 #31

I have read them Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #46

Then you should be able to cite passages you find "bigoted" or "ignorant." n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #47

I'm hearing chirping crickets... n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #62

I suppose I get to do my debating opponents' work for them. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #69

You're assurance that you "know" that convinces everyone, I'm sure skepticscott Mar 2013 #70

What makes him a bigot? hrmjustin Mar 2013 #27

Tell me how "raising a child to be Catholic is worse than child abuse" is not a bigoted statement Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #33

You were challenged before skepticscott Mar 2013 #39

Do you have your copy of The God Delusion? Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #53

Nothing on Page 356 shows Dawkins saying skepticscott Mar 2013 #55

I don't need to try again. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #60

Then they cite the wrong page, and still not the quote that was claimed skepticscott Mar 2013 #65

That was clearly the quote that was claimed. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #73

Lame...A quote is..duh...a QUOTE skepticscott Mar 2013 #74

Good grief. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #75

Nice dodge...but more horseshit skepticscott Mar 2013 #76

hah! EvilAL Mar 2013 #40

Still waiting for you to prove skepticscott Mar 2013 #42

Do you not have Google on your computer? Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #54

I didn't make the claim that Dawkins said skepticscott Mar 2013 #56

I see. You have no interest in the truth. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #59

You have the book...cite me the page..you lied about it once skepticscott Mar 2013 #63

Still waiting skepticscott Mar 2013 #48

Still waiting for you to link to that quote skepticscott Mar 2013 #66

We have to do their work for them. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #71

He certainly made no unequivocal statements of the type skepticscott Mar 2013 #72

True - he was talking about a specific case, not making a broad-brush statement. n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #77

I guess when you're preaching to the choir truth doesn't matter regardless of what church you're in Leontius Mar 2013 #90

Wow...you thought all that time skepticscott Mar 2013 #91

If you threaten your child with hell Gore1FL Mar 2013 #80

Explain how emotionally traumatizing a child with threats of hell isn't abusive. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #87

Still waiting for you to prove skepticscott Mar 2013 #88

Still waiting for you to link to that quote skepticscott Mar 2013 #97

He said "is a form of," not "is worse than." And I do support Richard Dawkins. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #98

You won't get an answer skepticscott Mar 2013 #99

Evolutionary scientists can show unequivocally skepticscott Mar 2013 #28

Look up the definition of the word "faith" Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #32

If you could point out where I "lied" skepticscott Mar 2013 #38

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Why have faith in a randomly chosen story? Gore1FL Mar 2013 #81

I don't krhines Mar 2013 #78

If by "ignorant bigot" Gore1FL Mar 2013 #79

Seems like all the god-believers can do is.. nonoyes Mar 2013 #24

Your observation seems spot-on. In fact, we can all observe that right in this thread. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #25

There are some, rexcat Mar 2013 #29

There are a lot of atheists who truly hate believers Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #34

That is only an opinion based on no facts... rexcat Mar 2013 #36

Of course, you have no evidence or facts, just like your nonoyes Mar 2013 #37

man oh man is the dude a crashing boor. i tried to watch this, but frankly chewing gum struggle4progress Mar 2013 #30

Well, few can match your unfathomable spiritual depth... Silent3 Mar 2013 #85

Reading Comprehension Strategies struggle4progress Mar 2013 #86

Perhaps the brave Dawkins will offer an explanation as to why when Leontius Mar 2013 #43

Here is the video in full context. Feel foolish yet? Gore1FL Mar 2013 #82

Why should I ? Leontius Mar 2013 #89

You misrepresented his statement in context. I demonstrated you were wrong with the actual video. Gore1FL Mar 2013 #92

There was no change to his statement by any supposed "context" you claim shown by the video Leontius Mar 2013 #93

Did you even look at the video? Gore1FL Mar 2013 #94

nah just parroting a talking point. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #95

Hitchens was far more entertaining and humorous. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #51

I miss his Hitchslaps! n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #83

Dawkins has made some smart points and I think debate of religion is really important. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #52