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Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
27. Most of those words in those orders don't mean anything.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jan 2012

And many of the ones that do are wrong.

Trying to understand things is not a "path". One does not come to understand things by looking at many different beliefs without trying to work out which ones are right and which ones are wrong, one does it by reasoning towards conclusions. The value of the activity is a) in the conclusions arrived at, and b) in practice arriving at conclusions enhancing ones ability to do so in future. It's not just about enjoying the view.

People who talk like you do almost invariably *aren't* seekers, you're deliberately-remain-losters who are actively contemptuous of those who are trying to come up with the right answers to questions and demonstrate that those answers are right (just as I am actively contemptuous of those who aren't, to be fair, but sometimes less openly).

Scientists are seekers. Even the most dogmatic religious fundamentalists are seekers - they're seekers who believe that what they're looking for is right where they are, but they're still concerned with deciding what is true and what isn't. People who refer to themselves as "spiritual but not religious" almost invariably aren't seeking after truth, they're simply enjoying the view.

The word "God" means (not "represents&quot a supreme being. It simply does not mean "the universe" or "just deeper self knowledge", that's just incorrect.

People do indeed have to be free to think how they choose. But those who choose not to try to be right about things have to accept "haughty scorn" as their lot.

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"I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" [View all] cleanhippie Jan 2012 OP
Sounds familiar. darkstar3 Jan 2012 #1
It really does. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #2
Bite for me? :D tama Jan 2012 #3
No, not for you. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #4
That's tama Jan 2012 #8
To add to CH's point about you and definitions, I'd like to quote myself from another board. darkstar3 Jan 2012 #5
Succinct and well-stated. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #6
You are correct tama Jan 2012 #7
I said not one thing about control. You again work against the goal of effective communication. darkstar3 Jan 2012 #9
No you didn't tama Jan 2012 #11
I'm not talking about your use of metaphor, I'm talking about your blatant darkstar3 Jan 2012 #13
That's unkind tama Jan 2012 #14
There was nowhere, directly or indirectly, where I told you to shut up. darkstar3 Jan 2012 #15
OK then, you didn't. tama Jan 2012 #18
do we use language or does language use us? AlbertCat Jan 2012 #20
Well done you seem to have mastered the ability to make words mean nothing at all Leontius Jan 2012 #10
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder tama Jan 2012 #12
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder AlbertCat Jan 2012 #21
what is the argument in opposition to 'i am spiritual'? tiny elvis Jan 2012 #16
I wonder if those who enjoy that saying mean "philosophical" when they say "spiritual." ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #17
Funny toon. My feelings exactly. valerief Jan 2012 #19
"Spiritual" often means... AlbertCat Jan 2012 #22
Everyone has their own path. silverweb Jan 2012 #23
About that metaphor... laconicsax Jan 2012 #24
You changed the metaphor. silverweb Jan 2012 #25
Well done. cbayer Jan 2012 #26
Most of those words in those orders don't mean anything. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #27
Well done. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #28
And you're perfectly free to think that. silverweb Jan 2012 #29
Your first post said the exact opposite. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #30
I didn't say I agree with you. silverweb Jan 2012 #31
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