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Pab Sungenis

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51. Why I am encouraged.

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 09:59 AM

Mar 2013

First, he is more humble than his two immediate predecessors. Witness his first appearance. Haven't seen anything like that since John Paul I.

Two, we're not going to change centuries of hatred overnight, but he's a step in the right direction. His promise of a poor church that concentrates on spiritual and not political matters is a game changer.

Third, he's another placeholder. He's 76 and only has one lung. He won't rule for 20+ years like John Paul II, probably closer to 10 or maybe 15 like Paul VI. He won't get too firmly entrenched.

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Full text: What Pope Francis said in his first speech as pontiff [View all] struggle4progress Mar 2013 OP

I personally think he will be a great Pope. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #1

As compared to the last jag bag or in general? Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #2

He has spoken forcefully and at length about poverty. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #3

So on what standard are you basing your statement... trotsky Mar 2013 #4

I would imagine that a great many women and non-heterosexuals... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #5

Good thing you've set the bar low. trotsky Mar 2013 #6

Yes, I think he will be a great Pope. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #7

Yeah, it offends me to see someone praising a guy... trotsky Mar 2013 #8

Sorry to offend you then. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #11

Millions were overjoyed when Gee-Dubya was elected and re-elected. trotsky Mar 2013 #15

Fair enough. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #18

You can be as happy as you want! trotsky Mar 2013 #21

You pope lovers make me think of a flock of sheep, mr blur Mar 2013 #22

thank you for saying what so very many of us have been thinking.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #47

They don't have to throw out 2000 years of theology EvilAL Mar 2013 #28

So he's not shitty toward the poor Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #9

What does this have to do with the Tea Party? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #10

If what you mean is that he will be great leader of a homophobic and sexist institution Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #12

I'm guessing you don't care much for the Catholic Church in general. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #13

Oh, that old chestnut. Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #14

You are certainly allowed to call whatever you like on them. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #16

Are you actually pretending Goblinmonger Mar 2013 #17

Churches have impact on governments because they have impact on their congregants. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #19

that seems to be a new tack. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #24

To me, he only seems to care about the poor to the extent that the church can exploite them moobu2 Mar 2013 #41

in argentina the finca lords rule with the blessing of dole and del monte Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #48

I also like him more as I learn more about him. goldent Mar 2013 #29

I shall certainly hope for greatness Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #20

Intercessory prayer study. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #25

So what you are saying is "prayer does not work". Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #30

It was worse than "doesn't work". Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #31

By one whole percentage point Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #32

read again. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #38

let me put that correctly Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #39

You should go with Matthew's advice intead. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #33

It is amazing that you, who have never met or seen me, know what my style of prayer is Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #34

I know exactly who you are. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #35

No, you don't Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #36

You have no idea what bigotry is, and if you did, you wouldn't toss about the accusation as you do. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #37

As I CORRECTLY said Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #40

Cool story, bro. cleanhippie Mar 2013 #43

I know EXACTLY what bigotry is Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #42

Then show us where he said that. Link to the quote. skepticscott Mar 2013 #44

I did link to it, and I'm not going to bother to do it again Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #45

No, you didn't skepticscott Mar 2013 #46

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." trotsky Mar 2013 #50

You just haven't got a clue. And you're the worst bigot around this group. mr blur Mar 2013 #49

Should I report you? Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #53

I liked it. cbayer Mar 2013 #23

The line about the Bishop of Rome is not only amusing, it might signal struggle4progress Mar 2013 #26

Thanks for that information. I wasn't aware of the back story. cbayer Mar 2013 #27

Why I am encouraged. Pab Sungenis Mar 2013 #51

I'm hoping the Catholic hierarchy will turn back toward the preferential-option-for-the-poor struggle4progress Mar 2013 #52