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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
36. Extortion
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:53 PM
Mar 2013
Ask away. This organization, though, also supports some of the largest charity organizations in the world that do important work that progressives would heartily approve of. Catholic Relief Services was working in Darfur and many other poverty stricken places long before Darfur made the evening news. Catholic Charities is the second largest social service provider in the US, second only to the Federal government. They do great work. I used to work for them, and I am not Catholic. There are no faith requirements, either to work for them or receive services.


The charitable work the church supports doesn't negate or cancel out the bad. Until Catholics are allowed to choose precisely where their contributions go, the money they drop in the plate invariably funds anti-homosexual and misogynistic programs, and defending and relocating rapist priests, as well as putting clothes on people's backs. Asserting that we can't risk punishing the Church financially for its inhumane programs because of the good works that will be negatively affected is tantamount to extortion.

Should we really have to put up with bigotry and criminal accessory to rape of minors because we're afraid the Church will no longer support good causes? If the Church hierarchy were good and moral, would they even let such a thing happen?

If you want to give money to the disadvantaged, that's absolutely terrific. I encourage it. And, there's no shortage of secular charities which, given the kind of funding that is pumped through the church, could accomplish similar, if not superior results. In lieu of dropping money in the collection plate, I would urge Catholics to give to these charities instead.

The basic importance of faith to believers is best experienced in community. Do you wish for Catholics to stop going to church?


Ultimately, I think the best method of voicing one's displeasure with the Church's leadership would be to boycott the organization entirely, but I don't think merely showing up for a service is equivalent to actively funding the organization. So no, I don't feel strongly one way or the other about whether or not liberal Catholics go to church. I understand the community is important to them, and I can see why it would be difficult to give that up.

Like I said, I wasn't born an atheist.

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"people who, on the one hand want to listen to Jesus, but, on the other hand..." trotsky Mar 2013 #1
There are self-proclaimed liberal and tolerant atheists here, aren't there? BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #3
Buddhists too, apparently. trotsky Mar 2013 #4
where? BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #5
Post #3... Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #6
nope BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #7
Most of what I saw was outrage directed at ostensibly progressive people... Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #8
Apparently not BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #9
Categorically absurd Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #10
This is exactly the type of stuff Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #11
The heirarchy exists because the congregants allow it Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #14
Not a double standard Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #17
Yes, a double-standard Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #20
My experience Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #58
And if someone said that skepticscott Mar 2013 #56
they aren't analogous Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #57
No, they're not absolutely, 100% the same skepticscott Mar 2013 #60
"Blaming congregants for the hierarchy is misguided." Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #53
Who did that? Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #54
Please consider posting in the new Interfaith group. cbayer Mar 2013 #55
Very disappointing to see intelligence such as yours used to alienate and disparage nt Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #12
That certainly isn't the point Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #15
Unnecessary rudeness BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #19
You are just repeating the same old stuff BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #13
Your logic is uncompelling Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #16
... trotsky Mar 2013 #18
and your logic is just as uncompelling kwassa Mar 2013 #21
How much responsibility for pedophilia does the church bear... trotsky Mar 2013 #22
No, that has changed, though not enough kwassa Mar 2013 #25
2 responses: trotsky Mar 2013 #26
respect the relevant local laws in investigating and reporting allegations of sexual abuse kwassa Mar 2013 #27
Sheesh, did you even read what you posted? skepticscott Mar 2013 #28
You still didn't answer my question. trotsky Mar 2013 #30
To answer your question ... kwassa Mar 2013 #35
If that's the way you bow out of the discussion, so be it. trotsky Mar 2013 #38
trotsky, you are such a waste of time. kwassa Mar 2013 #43
All I did was ask a question. trotsky Mar 2013 #47
Logic is subjective. That's new. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #23
You are only logical up to a point. kwassa Mar 2013 #24
Extortion Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #36
Can you choose where your income taxes go? okasha Mar 2013 #41
Paying taxes isn't voluntary. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #42
Paying taxes is voluntary okasha Mar 2013 #45
Shockingly illogical Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #46
So you would be willing okasha Mar 2013 #49
Flogging dead horses, again. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #50
Whaterver you say. okasha Mar 2013 #51
"Twaddle." Plantaganet Mar 2013 #52
Financially supporting an organization is ... kwassa Mar 2013 #44
However, the atheists who mock and belittle believers Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #32
A lecture from you on behavior is laughable. trotsky Mar 2013 #33
I think I am acting in a way that Jesus would approve Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #37
Awesome. trotsky Mar 2013 #39
So do you approve of bigotry? Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #40
No, but apparently Jesus does. n/t trotsky Mar 2013 #48
Now that would seem to be a bigoted remark Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2013 #59
You have been asked at least 2 dozen times now... trotsky Mar 2013 #61
Like keeping woman subservient edhopper Mar 2013 #2
I, for one, am enthralled. Plantaganet Mar 2013 #29
You need to post this in GD skepticscott Mar 2013 #31
Love and mercy indeed. trotsky Mar 2013 #34
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