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Dorian Gray

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58. My experience

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:20 AM

Mar 2013

I miss Mass all the time. I'm not the most faithful catholic. I don't donate to the Annual Appeal (goes to the Diocese). I sometimes donate to our collection plate at my home church. That money goes directly to the church for upkeep. I certainly don't tithe any percent of anything.

And I have absolutely no problem criticizing the hierarchical structure of the church. They're humans who have perpetrated disturbing evils. Some deserve jail time for their crimes. I also have no problem debating theological issues.

What I take umbrage at is blaming congregants.

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My experience Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #58

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"Blaming congregants for the hierarchy is misguided." Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #53

Who did that? Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #54

Please consider posting in the new Interfaith group. cbayer Mar 2013 #55

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Unnecessary rudeness BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #19

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Your logic is uncompelling Act_of_Reparation Mar 2013 #16

... trotsky Mar 2013 #18

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respect the relevant local laws in investigating and reporting allegations of sexual abuse kwassa Mar 2013 #27

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Love and mercy indeed. trotsky Mar 2013 #34