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Heddi

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43. So it's worse to have a circumcision in a hospital setting

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 07:22 PM

Apr 2013

where the doctor does not put his herpes-infected mouth on the penis of the infant, giving the infant a herpetic infection of the genitals?

While it's not "forcing any beliefs on anyone," it's certainly forcing a lifetime infection of HERPES on these INFANTS.

I repeat, since it seems to be getting missed in the cacophony of "THIS IS RELIGION AND RELIGION IS GOOD NO MATTER WHAT!!" apologetic nonsense,

THESE INFANTS WERE GIVEN HERPES. GENITAL HERPES. THEY WERE GIVEN HERPES BY GROWN MEN WHO HAD HERPES INFECTIONS AND GAVE THE INFANTS HERPES BECAUSE THEY PUT THEIR HERPES-LADEN LIPS ON THE PENISES OF INFANTS IN A RITUALISTIC BLOOD-SUCKING EXERCISE.

THESE INFANTS WITH HERPES WILL GROW UP TO BE ADULTS WITH HERPES. HERPES TRANSMISSION IS NOT STOPPED OR DECREASED BY CONDOMS. IT IS TRANSMITTED BY SKIN-TO-SKIN. ORAL SEX CAN TRANSMIT HERPES. KISSING CAN TRANSMIT HERPES. MUTUAL MASTURBATION CAN TRANSMIT HERPES

THESE GROWN MEN INFECTED INFANTS WITH HERPES. THERE IS NO CURE FOR HERPES. THEY WILL HAVE HERPES FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES AND THEY WILL MOST LIKELY INFECT ANYONE THEY HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH. ANY WOMAN/WOMEN THAT ARE INFECTED WITH HERPES WILL MOST LIKELY HAVE TO GIVE BIRTH VIA C-SECTION BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED RISK OF TRANSMITTING GENITAL HERPES TO *THEIR* CHILDREN DURING CHILDBIRTH

Sounds a FUCK of a lot like imposing some beliefs on someone to me. Or, imposing their herpetic lesions to the penises to unconsenting infants who probably, when grown and given the option, really woudln't want to have to live with a lifetime of herpes outbreaks and taking anti-virals to decrease the outbreaks.

But hey, it's just religion, right? No harm!

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Religious circumcision ritual leaves 2 Brooklyn infants with herpes [View all] cleanhippie Apr 2013 OP

That is horrible and common here in Brooklyn. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #1

This practice should be all-out illegal. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #2

+1000 hrmjustin Apr 2013 #3

I agree Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #4

Lemme guess - something out of Leviticus. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #11

"If someone insists on circumcizing and infant.." Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #61

I don't consider circumcision Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #62

Correct. It is a practice that is much debated. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #63

All circumcision on infants should be illegal. Apophis Apr 2013 #10

Let me guess, you're circumcised. rug Apr 2013 #15

Making public guesses about a DUers genitals is kind of weird, in my opinion. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #53

It's aways good to know who's got a horse in the race. rug Apr 2013 #57

It sounds like the city is proceeding properly. I would guess this is not struggle4progress Apr 2013 #5

There seem to be about 375 cases of congenital syphilis a year in the US struggle4progress Apr 2013 #7

Herpes is forever. trotsky Apr 2013 #8

I still think the city is proceeding properly, but of course you're welcome to keep trying struggle4progress Apr 2013 #13

Herpes is indeed forever, and shame on those who are pooh-poohing the seriousness of this Heddi Apr 2013 #19

HEY DON'T FORGET THEY HAVE A LOWER RISK OF BLADDER INFECTIONS! trotsky Apr 2013 #32

"1. Circumcised infants have fewer bladder and kidney infections in the first year of life. struggle4progress Apr 2013 #6

The circumcision could have been performed without any risk of herpes transmission. trotsky Apr 2013 #9

SHOULD HAVE and COULD HAVE been. elleng Apr 2013 #52

But what are the risk to children that have HERPES? Heddi Apr 2013 #20

Go back and find some info that hasn't been discredited Lordquinton Apr 2013 #21

American Academy of Pediatrics Circumcision Policy Statement struggle4progress Apr 2013 #24

"health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks" Lordquinton Apr 2013 #65

Holy shit dude. This is crazy. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #23

American Academy of Pediatrics Circumcision Policy Statement struggle4progress Apr 2013 #25

The more you justify, the more disgusted I become. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #27

I merely provided you with last year's policy statement from AAP struggle4progress Apr 2013 #28

You have sunk to a new low, s4p. trotsky Apr 2013 #33

But it's religion, Trots! Religion is good! Heddi Apr 2013 #45

The OP is not about circumcision, it is about an unsterile environment n/t arcane1 Apr 2013 #30

And as I have said "It sounds like the city is proceeding properly." However, there are multiple struggle4progress Apr 2013 #34

women married to circumcised men have a lower instance on cervical cancer... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #51

Shouldn't be hard to track down the guilty mohelim and charge them with reckless endangerment, dimbear Apr 2013 #12

It may not be kosher, but it's one heck of a band name arcane1 Apr 2013 #31

Gee, the last time you posted this kind of story you posted pictures. rug Apr 2013 #14

Let's see. Cutting off part of a child's genitals counts as physical child abuse... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #16

I see. You equate the removal of the prepuce with religious education. rug Apr 2013 #17

If there was an actual medical purpose for circumcision, I'd be less critical. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #18

American Academy of Pediatrics Circumcision Policy Statement struggle4progress Apr 2013 #26

I can dig up dozens of studies documenting the harmful effects of circumcision. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #35

It sounds to me like the city is proceeding properly. struggle4progress Apr 2013 #36

Not to me. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #42

Probably won't happen but I agree somebody needs some jail time for this. Leontius Apr 2013 #64

Told you so. He intentinally misled you to use "education" not "indoctrination" from his initial use cleanhippie Apr 2013 #38

You have been intentionally misled. It's religious INDOCTRINATION, not education. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #37

Very true. Education implies the material being taught is useful in the real world. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #41

Rabbis can slurp blood from baby penises but Rastafarians can't smoke pot? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #22

Court OKs religion defense against possession of drug. struggle4progress Apr 2013 #29

Haredim are unfortunately bringing this back Meshuga Apr 2013 #39

Though I do find it brutal and barbarian, it is not forcing any beliefs on anyone. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #40

So it's worse to have a circumcision in a hospital setting Heddi Apr 2013 #43

Having a rough day are we Heddi? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #54

Not a rough day at all, just a really rough time understanding Heddi Apr 2013 #66

Thanks for reminding me of what I wrote. And in BIG LETTERS too. How do you do that? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #67

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #68

Oh dear, what a horrible thing to say. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #71

I fit in pretty well here. Heddi Apr 2013 #72

Two wrongs don't make a right Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #73

Horrible and 100% true. Being hidden doesn't make it not right. I agree with what she said. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #74

Sorry, but what is true? And who is hiding and from what? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #76

You're pretending you are, but you're not. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #78

I have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #79

It's forcing them on the baby. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #44

But but but! It's done for religion Heddi Apr 2013 #46

It indeed is absolutely disgusting and horrifying. Those mohels should be in prison. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #47

BUT ITS A RITUAL Heddi Apr 2013 #49

It's the gift that keeps on giving! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #50

You are 100% correct and I never suggested otherwise. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #56

Also, I'm curious Heddi Apr 2013 #48

I don't know where you get the twisted idea that I support circumcision in any way. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #58

the mohels are doing it for god AND money Heddi Apr 2013 #69

And why do the parents want their children to be mutilated by doctors, pray tell? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #70

So messed up. Those babies now have incurable STDs. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #55

Denouncing City’s Move to Regulate Circumcision struggle4progress Apr 2013 #59

Medical Associations Urge Against Injunction On Metzitzah Informed Consent struggle4progress Apr 2013 #60

This needs to be just flat out banned ButterflyBlood Apr 2013 #75

+1,000,000,000!!! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #77