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In reply to the discussion: Religious circumcision ritual leaves 2 Brooklyn infants with herpes [View all]struggle4progress
(125,824 posts)59. Denouncing City’s Move to Regulate Circumcision
By SHARON OTTERMAN
Published: September 12, 2012
... The city estimates that metzitzah bpeh is used in some 3,600 local circumcisions each year. The citys health department says that, between 2000 and 2011, 11 babies contracted herpes as a result, and 2 of them died. This spring, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention declared that the procedure created a risk for transmission of herpes and other pathogens and was not safe ...
Rabbi Gerald C. Skolnik, the president of the Rabbinical Assembly, the international association of conservative rabbis, said he supported the Board of Healths move to require parental consent. He said that direct suction was not required by Jewish law and that the serious risks of the practice were inconsistent with the Jewish traditions pre-eminent concern with human life and health.
In 2005, the Rabbinical Council of America, the main union of modern Orthodox rabbis, urged that a sterile glass tube be used for suction, rather than the mohels mouth. But the group opposes the citys effort to regulate the practice; instead it has asked the city to work with Orthodox groups to voluntarily develop procedures to effectively prevent the unintended spread of infection ...
Rabbi Gerald C. Skolnik, the president of the Rabbinical Assembly, the international association of conservative rabbis, said he supported the Board of Healths move to require parental consent. He said that direct suction was not required by Jewish law and that the serious risks of the practice were inconsistent with the Jewish traditions pre-eminent concern with human life and health.
In 2005, the Rabbinical Council of America, the main union of modern Orthodox rabbis, urged that a sterile glass tube be used for suction, rather than the mohels mouth. But the group opposes the citys effort to regulate the practice; instead it has asked the city to work with Orthodox groups to voluntarily develop procedures to effectively prevent the unintended spread of infection ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/nyregion/regulation-of-circumcision-method-divides-some-jews-in-new-york.html
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Religious circumcision ritual leaves 2 Brooklyn infants with herpes [View all]
cleanhippie
Apr 2013
OP
Making public guesses about a DUers genitals is kind of weird, in my opinion.
ZombieHorde
Apr 2013
#53
It sounds like the city is proceeding properly. I would guess this is not
struggle4progress
Apr 2013
#5
There seem to be about 375 cases of congenital syphilis a year in the US
struggle4progress
Apr 2013
#7
I still think the city is proceeding properly, but of course you're welcome to keep trying
struggle4progress
Apr 2013
#13
Herpes is indeed forever, and shame on those who are pooh-poohing the seriousness of this
Heddi
Apr 2013
#19
"1. Circumcised infants have fewer bladder and kidney infections in the first year of life.
struggle4progress
Apr 2013
#6
The circumcision could have been performed without any risk of herpes transmission.
trotsky
Apr 2013
#9
And as I have said "It sounds like the city is proceeding properly." However, there are multiple
struggle4progress
Apr 2013
#34
women married to circumcised men have a lower instance on cervical cancer...
Sekhmets Daughter
Apr 2013
#51
Shouldn't be hard to track down the guilty mohelim and charge them with reckless endangerment,
dimbear
Apr 2013
#12
Let's see. Cutting off part of a child's genitals counts as physical child abuse...
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#16
If there was an actual medical purpose for circumcision, I'd be less critical.
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#18
I can dig up dozens of studies documenting the harmful effects of circumcision.
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#35
Told you so. He intentinally misled you to use "education" not "indoctrination" from his initial use
cleanhippie
Apr 2013
#38
You have been intentionally misled. It's religious INDOCTRINATION, not education.
cleanhippie
Apr 2013
#37
Very true. Education implies the material being taught is useful in the real world.
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#41
Rabbis can slurp blood from baby penises but Rastafarians can't smoke pot?
Phillip McCleod
Apr 2013
#22
Though I do find it brutal and barbarian, it is not forcing any beliefs on anyone.
Starboard Tack
Apr 2013
#40
Thanks for reminding me of what I wrote. And in BIG LETTERS too. How do you do that?
Starboard Tack
Apr 2013
#67
Horrible and 100% true. Being hidden doesn't make it not right. I agree with what she said.
2ndAmForComputers
Apr 2013
#74
It indeed is absolutely disgusting and horrifying. Those mohels should be in prison. n/t
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#47
I don't know where you get the twisted idea that I support circumcision in any way.
Starboard Tack
Apr 2013
#58
And why do the parents want their children to be mutilated by doctors, pray tell?
Starboard Tack
Apr 2013
#70
Medical Associations Urge Against Injunction On Metzitzah Informed Consent
struggle4progress
Apr 2013
#60