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Paul E Ester

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7. Little info on the background.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 12:56 PM
Apr 2013
This is not the first time that El Al is faced with problems with ultra-Orthodox people on board flights to religious sites. In 2002, a flight crew had to prevent an ultra-Orthodox passenger, flying from Israel to Britain, from wrapping himself in plastic bags. The pilot was forced to return to Ben Gurion International airport in order to remove the passenger from the plane. The passenger, a Cohen, wrapped himself in plastic bags for fear that the plane's route would pass through the air above the Holon cemetery and he would consequently become impure.

Rabbi Yosef Shalom Eliashiv, the leader of the Lithuanian Haredi community in Israel, published a halakhic ruling in the past stipulating that Cohens mustn't fly in this plane because they are prohibited from flying over a cemetery. Later, Rabbi Eliashiv found a solution to this issue, ruling that wrapping oneself in thick plastic bags while the plane crossed over the cemetery is permissible.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/ultra-orthodox-passengers-riot-aboard-el-al-plane-over-screening-of-film-1.243447

First, an introduction. Some members of the Jewish Faith can trace their ancestral roots back to Ahron, brother of Moses, the first Kohen (as in Cohen) or Biblical Priest.

As the Torah-Bible clearly states in Leviticus Chapter 21, a Kohen can not come into contact with a dead person except for an immediate relative.

In any case...................It seems that flights leaving Tel Aviv, fly over a cemetery in Holon, creating a problem for any Kohen in flight.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other-middle-east-africa-frequent-flyer-programs/61923-flying-over-holon-cemetery.html

Place is huge


I have to wonder if Rabbi Yosef Shalom Eliashiv does not realize the plane itself is sealed.

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Oh my fucking word! Meshuga Apr 2013 #1
Misleading headline (not Paul's) indicates plane, not man, was covered in the plastic bag. Scuba Apr 2013 #2
It just reminded me of this SpartanDem Apr 2013 #3
What this highlights to me edhopper Apr 2013 #4
Can anyone find an argument that a plastic bag insulates him better muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #5
Does it *really* astound you? gcomeau Apr 2013 #6
It does - it's not often they invent brand new rules to humiliate the followers muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #9
What gcomeau said. n/t. lindysalsagal Apr 2013 #17
Little info on the background. Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #7
The insane things religious beliefs make people do... MellowDem Apr 2013 #8
That is racism. LuvNewcastle Apr 2013 #10
did you ask them about it? Mosby Apr 2013 #18
Religion can make people do really, really stupid things. mr blur Apr 2013 #11
Well to be fair not all believers are like this guy. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #12
No, they're not. But all (or nearly all) guys like this guy are believers. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #20
You guys! So critical. In the rabbi's defense, he looks to me like a chap who recycles. n/t dimbear Apr 2013 #13
Looks like performance art to me. goldent Apr 2013 #14
The ultra-orthodox flavor of Judaism is full of this kind of nuttery. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #15
Flavor-sealed for Freshness! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #16
I think he's just into bagism deutsey Apr 2013 #19
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