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Phillip McCleod

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1. i love all these stories on the new new atheists..

Sat Apr 13, 2013, 01:55 PM

Apr 2013

listening to atheists debate other atheists is really raising the level of discourse on the subject of religious-state relations.

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Atheists Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris face Islamophobia backlash [View all] rug Apr 2013 OP

i love all these stories on the new new atheists.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #1

I grant you it's not as entertaining as posting cartoons. rug Apr 2013 #2

mm. i agree, and heartily approve. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #3

I like your post. longship Apr 2013 #6

thx! and, true no doubt it will be spun that way.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #7

+100 We may share a lack of belief, but tactics and attitudes vary tremendously. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #8

i don't think dawkins or harris give all atheists a bad name. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #9

I agree that they didn't give all atheists a bad name. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #17

It is not judgement "based solely on religious belief" skepticscott Apr 2013 #24

Judgement of actions is totally valid. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #27

Dawkins wrote "Islam greatest force for evil today" � wow! cpwm17 Apr 2013 #29

Couldn't agree more. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #39

Why does it make Dawkjns a bigot skepticscott Apr 2013 #32

Because he says "But often say Islam greatest force for evil today" Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #34

Islam is a motivator and justifier of actions skepticscott Apr 2013 #40

Wrong. Islam is used as a motivator by extremists. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #41

Ah, so all of those people who claim skepticscott Apr 2013 #42

Do you sit around all day making this shit up? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #44

Try again skepticscott Apr 2013 #48

You just exposedyourself for the hate mongering bigot that you are Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #49

In case you were wondering skepticscott Apr 2013 #43

"But I feel only compassion for the members of the flock..........." dimbear Apr 2013 #25

Of course, and sometimes I do, but not by attacking and insulting them. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #28

If in fact Allah is as imaginary as Yahweh, then killing people in His name loses its attractive dimbear Apr 2013 #4

That's how I feel about Nationalism. rug Apr 2013 #5

Is Dawkins any more bigoted against Muslims skepticscott Apr 2013 #10

You think Democrats are bigoted against republicans? rug Apr 2013 #12

Are you saying no one on this site skepticscott Apr 2013 #13

I'm saying anyone who calls opposition to republicans bigotry has a problem with the term. rug Apr 2013 #15

How about opposition to leftists that manifests in massive campaigns to murder and malign them? eomer Apr 2013 #19

I have no problem with the term skepticscott Apr 2013 #21

What does Islam have to do with politics. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #18

You are slicing it the wrong way. eomer Apr 2013 #20

Bigotry is a state of mind based on prejudice. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #30

Has Dawkins said that he hates all religious people skepticscott Apr 2013 #33

What do child rapists have to do with religion or Dawkins? Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #36

If religion were only about "personal spiritual belief" skepticscott Apr 2013 #22

more to the point Islamism and Jihadism are political concepts. Mosby Apr 2013 #31

I agree. Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #38

Religion is up for discussion too. eomer Apr 2013 #35

It was in response to post#10 Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #37

Evidence that Dawkins is an extremist? Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #45

Sure. Those who are intolerant of believers Starboard Tack Apr 2013 #46

OK, and evidence that Dawkins is like that? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #47

It's a predictable strategy... MellowDem Apr 2013 #11

Excellent response... rexcat Apr 2013 #14

I presume you're using a rhetorical "you". rug Apr 2013 #16

�There is no such thing as �Islamophobia.� Really? Jim__ Apr 2013 #23

Really... MellowDem Apr 2013 #50

Calling muslims savages qualifies as Islamophobia. Jim__ Apr 2013 #52

It's simply bigotry, it has nothing to do with the belief system... MellowDem Apr 2013 #53

You can keep putting lipstick on that pig; it ain't getting any prettier. Jim__ Apr 2013 #54

You can keep being intellectually dishonest, I'll keep smacking down your non-arguments nt MellowDem Apr 2013 #55

The whole point is to stop conflating legitimate criticism of religion with ethnic animus. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #56

Sam Harris is the poster child for an Islamophobe cpwm17 Apr 2013 #26

He doesn't consider them fully human? MellowDem Apr 2013 #51