Religion

MarkCharles

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86. SOME, not all. What is your view of such expressions? Are they..

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:12 PM

Jan 2012

actually "religious" or are they simply the expressions of fools and bigots who hide behind the appearances of something close to what most people would call a "religious" belief, i.e. something wherein the belief, alone, without evidence, is worthy of respect?

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Conservative Christian parents fight for right to discriminate against LGBT students [View all] cleanhippie Jan 2012 OP

I'm not up-to-date on congressional district lines in Minnesota anymore, but Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #1

This is backlash to the school districts proposal to change the cbayer Jan 2012 #2

I think it is the fear of being labled a "bigot" that allows these things to get this far along. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #3

The problem as I see it is trying to paint a highly diverse group cbayer Jan 2012 #4

Well, you have your opinon and I have mine. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #5

Yes, that is why you are an atheist. And you are entitled to that opinion. cbayer Jan 2012 #6

I also thought part of the scientific method was to prove a hypothesis Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #8

Another part of it is to describe things with precision. rug Jan 2012 #14

My god created everything and is the master of the universe Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #17

That may be another article but it's not this one. rug Jan 2012 #21

For the most part I find your responses add Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #25

Bigots usually have trouble telling people apart. rug Jan 2012 #27

Are you calling me a bigot?? Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #31

Do you consider religion in general, and Christianity, specifically, to be monolithic? rug Jan 2012 #33

I asked a question and you did not answer it Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #38

The answer to your question is the same as your answers to my questions. rug Jan 2012 #42

I asked if you were calling me a bigot Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #46

Your answer to my two question will provide the answer to your question. rug Jan 2012 #48

I am asking myself if you are old enough to post on DU Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #49

I am asking myself why you refuse to answer a dispositive question. rug Jan 2012 #50

Go to post #31 Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #52

See, this is how it works. rug Jan 2012 #60

LOL ............ Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #63

Great answer. rug Jan 2012 #65

Well played point, his serve next I think Leontius Jan 2012 #93

Your really add a lot to the conversation. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #95

Doesn't take much Leontius Jan 2012 #96

Again, you really show how just one more voice adds so much. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #99

Pay no attention. He thinks he is being clever by calling you a bigot, but not really calling you a cleanhippie Jan 2012 #71

Wow. For someone who says "take my word for it" regarding the scientific method cleanhippie Jan 2012 #11

"No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong." cbayer Jan 2012 #84

Did you have a point? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #85

You evidently didn't go on to college logic class, wherein MarkCharles Jan 2012 #45

See, there you go again. Starting off with a rude insult. cbayer Jan 2012 #78

Well, your statement of the scientific method was kind of silly. Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #79

The 7th grade reference was in light of another post here where I cbayer Jan 2012 #80

TOTAL MISREPRESENTAION OF THE FACTS! Stop making things up, cbayer. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #83

Actually, you started it off with an insult to everyone's intelligence cleanhippie Jan 2012 #81

Nothing is rude about pointing out a fallacy in logical thinking. MarkCharles Jan 2012 #82

I'm sorry are any NONreligious people pushing for these things to be taught? dmallind Jan 2012 #108

Not that I know of. The groups pushing it seem to be 100% bigoted fundamentalists. cbayer Jan 2012 #109

So in what way is it incorrect to say religion is pushing this agenda? dmallind Jan 2012 #110

If you wish to conflate all religion into one group, that's your perogative, cbayer Jan 2012 #111

When else does language work this way? dmallind Jan 2012 #112

It works this way everywhere, imo. It depends where you draw the line as to whether cbayer Jan 2012 #113

You're ducking the question dmallind Jan 2012 #115

I think it is critical to define the different groups under a broad heading, cbayer Jan 2012 #116

Still ducking - and making things up to boot dmallind Jan 2012 #123

Actually, that is just one person. Its not even a group. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #118

So the 7,001,084 Californians that voted for Prop 8 are all bigoted fundamentlaists? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #117

That is not what I said. cbayer Jan 2012 #119

Wait, you just said that 100% of them pushing that agenda were bigoted fundamentalists. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #120

Quote: "The groups pushing it seem to be 100% bigoted fundamentalists." cbayer Jan 2012 #121

Oh yeah, it's MY mind that is shut, not yours. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #122

Your comment is equating the words "Conservative" and "Christian" in the headline. rug Jan 2012 #7

It is the headline from the article Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #9

He added the comment. rug Jan 2012 #10

Agree. cbayer Jan 2012 #12

These people are using their religion to justify their bigotry Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #15

That's right, "these" people. rug Jan 2012 #19

It doesn't say ALL christians. It doesn't say ALL people. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #24

No, it says rug Jan 2012 #26

It seems as if you are saying that religion itself is above criticism. Is that what you are saying? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #34

What you implied, very clearly, is that religion itself is bigotry. rug Jan 2012 #39

No, you inferred that. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #41

And do you say the article you posted applies to all religion? rug Jan 2012 #43

This article deals with Conservative Christians, as evidenced by the headline. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #53

I must have missed that qualification in your comment. rug Jan 2012 #56

Yep, you must have. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #59

Nope, didn't miss it. rug Jan 2012 #62

Well you are entitled to your opinion. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #67

No, its absence is a fact. rug Jan 2012 #70

when religious delusions are used to justify bigotry... mike_c Jan 2012 #94

Challenge to religion: become a more "wonderful thing" wherein MarkCharles Jan 2012 #51

Absolute bull crap is also part of what one calls irreligion. rug Jan 2012 #54

No, I noticed it in about 5th grade. What I find amazing is.. MarkCharles Jan 2012 #61

You do not want religious belief to be protected by law? rug Jan 2012 #64

Religious belief is not protected by the first amendment, FREE speech is. MarkCharles Jan 2012 #66

And if you speak your religious belief? rug Jan 2012 #68

There is no such thing as governmental endorsements for any ... MarkCharles Jan 2012 #72

Are you saying religious expressions are "expressions . . . of hate"? rug Jan 2012 #75

SOME, not all. What is your view of such expressions? Are they.. MarkCharles Jan 2012 #86

The poster never said all Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #29

Religion, unqualified. rug Jan 2012 #32

I do not diagree with the TOS Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #36

Then alert and let a jury decide. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #16

You're already transparent. rug Jan 2012 #23

As are you. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #40

Actually no. rug Jan 2012 #44

You seem to be making the topic now about me. That makes it personal. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #57

The topic is your broadbrush against religion, using these idiots as the brush. rug Jan 2012 #69

Broadbrushing groups of PEOPLE is against the rules, and you just called a group of people "idiots" cleanhippie Jan 2012 #74

Do you think these bigots you posted about are not idiots? rug Jan 2012 #76

As you did with Angry Dragon, you refuse to answer the question posed to you. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #77

That is the original headline of the article. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #13

The headline qualifiesas "Conservative Christians". rug Jan 2012 #18

Well, you are entitled to your opinion. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #20

But no one is entitled to their bigotry. rug Jan 2012 #22

Then certainly you can show where I exhibit this bigotry, right? cleanhippie Jan 2012 #28

I did, in this very thread. rug Jan 2012 #30

Well, then we strongly disagree that religion is above criticism. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #37

Reframing the issue only avoids the problem. rug Jan 2012 #47

You are entitled to your opinion. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #58

Speaking of being dishonest, you do know that "Conservative" in this case Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #73

No, it's not LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #89

"...including incorporating �ex-gay� therapy into the school resources." Rob H. Jan 2012 #35

Gay people are possessed by Satan! Religious people actually.. MarkCharles Jan 2012 #55

are there OTHER uses for religion? deacon_sephiroth Jan 2012 #87

Yes cbayer Jan 2012 #88

Yes, there are. LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #91

Ugh. Why are the religious right so obsessed with homosexuality? LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #90

Good question. cbayer Jan 2012 #92

No, I think the Occzam's Razor answer is given just below Goblinmonger Jan 2012 #105

I'm guessing that a disproportionate number of them Ken Burch Jan 2012 #98

How could you purge the curriculum any mention of homosexuality Ken Burch Jan 2012 #97

If Christian's are so upset about people slamming this kind of christianity justiceischeap Jan 2012 #100

Precisely. n/t Plantaganet Jan 2012 #102

Excellently stated ! n/t MarkCharles Jan 2012 #103

Yeah, but doing this is so much easier than that! cleanhippie Jan 2012 #104

Agree cbayer Jan 2012 #106

Gay-Related Immune Deficiency? WTF? onager Jan 2012 #101

As I recall, we used that term for all of about 8 months before changing it. cbayer Jan 2012 #107

So much fail my head wants to explode. jeepnstein Jan 2012 #114