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GliderGuider

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12. I didn't see it as nihilistic until just now when I looked up the word.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jan 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism
[div class="excerpt" style="border:solid 1px #000000"]The philosophical doctrine suggesting the negation of one or more putatively meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological, metaphysical, or ontological forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that contrary to popular belief, some aspect of reality does not exist as such.
I've always used the word to mean existential nihilism, but in the sense that it negates the value of belief, which most people feel is a meaningful aspect of life, yes, it is indeed nihilistic.

I suppose it's actually metaphysical nihilism which is even out past solipsism. To a solipsist only the sense of personal existence is sure, while all else requires belief in order to seem certain. When I'm in just the right frame of mind, even the sense of self appears to be an illusion, and nothing at all is "real" in the way we normally use the word. This is a standard interpretation in non-dualist philosophies like Advaita, but isn't part of the normal Western perspective.

Thanks for prompting me to expand my understanding of nihilism.

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I don't know of any such research, but it would be interesting to do. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #9
Conscious interpretations tama Jan 2012 #3
"In terms of echo" - that's a nice way of putting it. n/t GliderGuider Jan 2012 #10
My reaction to your first paragraph: Wow, your brain is really impressed with itself. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #4
It's all about reducing emotional reactivity GliderGuider Jan 2012 #5
I didn't say it was nihilism, I said it was a goal of philosophical nihilism: ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #11
I didn't see it as nihilistic until just now when I looked up the word. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #12
But of course the important point is that everything is real GliderGuider Jan 2012 #18
Nihilism developed a century ago with the rise of the French existentialists. Thats my opinion Jan 2012 #21
"Nihilism" is a slippery word. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #22
I'm not sure I want to eliminate the emotional charge associated with life. Jim__ Jan 2012 #6
It's OK, I doubt we can eliminate it all. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #7
This may or may not help. westerebus Jan 2012 #13
That's very good. Thanks! n/t GliderGuider Jan 2012 #16
The begining to preception is observation. westerebus Jan 2012 #19
Judgement and story are related. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #20
Let's go fishing. westerebus Jan 2012 #40
It seems to depend on how one thinks of the Me. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #41
Stokes hearth, boils water. westerebus Jan 2012 #42
I agree. Not sure what Me thinks about it, though :-) GliderGuider Jan 2012 #43
Drops pot. Rejoices. westerebus Jan 2012 #44
Smokes pot. Chills out. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #45
You lost me at "miracle" then ditched me at "second miracle". cleanhippie Jan 2012 #14
It would truly be a miracle GliderGuider Jan 2012 #15
I just did...and it wasn't a miracle. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #17
There are miracles all over the place. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #23
Or, you know, just finding what you look for. darkstar3 Jan 2012 #24
Yep. I love finding what I look for. That's why I look for fun stuff. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #25
Don't you think that finding a "miracle" when a perfectly plausible explanation exists... cleanhippie Jan 2012 #26
Give me plausible explanations for the existence of: GliderGuider Jan 2012 #27
You need to give me an example of a miracle first. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #28
In that case all we have is a semantic disagreement. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #29
Are they? darkstar3 Jan 2012 #31
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Because the words we choose reflect more than just what is on the surface. darkstar3 Jan 2012 #38
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Agreed. And yes, I do. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #32
So if there were no humans, time would not exist? GliderGuider Jan 2012 #34
What you are calling "time" is a human construct. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #35
Uh, no. GliderGuider Jan 2012 #36
*consults dictionary.com* Oh, you're right. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #37
...and sexual innuendo in Disney art? darkstar3 Jan 2012 #30
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