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In reply to the discussion: An Atheist Muslim's Perspective on the 'Root Causes' of Islamist Jihadism... [View all]muxin
(98 posts)14. His perception of extremism in Islam is ridiculous
He's implying that the terrorists or so called extremists are those who truly follow the teachings of Islam
I also understand that extremism in any ideology isn't a distortion of that ideology. It is an informed, steadfast adherence to its fundamentals, hence the term "fundamentalism."
Then he wrote..
In a true religion of peace, the "extremists" would be nonviolent pacifists to an extreme (and perhaps annoying) degree, not the opposite.
Those "extremists" have their own idiotic (if I may say so) interpretation about Islam in the first place, and they took this interpretation to the extreme level thus resulting in what we know as terrorism.
So in this case I can also call myself and many other muslims around the world who disagree with violent acts as extremists based on our interpretation of Islam.
It's much like what was stated by Sam Harris
in the case of Islam, the bad acts of the worst individualsthe jihadists, the murderers of apostates, and the men who treat their wives and daughters like chattelare the best examples of the doctrine in practice. Those who adhere most strictly to the actual teachings of Islam, those who expound its timeless dogma most honestly
What gave him the right to judge which are the actual teachings of Islam and which are not? So if I don't strap a bomb on my body and blow my self along with many innocent people that means I'm not a true muslim? Because I've spent more than 25 years learning about Islam and never found any encouragement for such act.
I just think that it's somewhat pathetic that these two persons - Ali A. Rizvi and Sam Harris - who supposed to be smart individuals have the same interpretation about Islam with a bunch of idiot lunatics who live in caves in Afghanistan.
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An Atheist Muslim's Perspective on the 'Root Causes' of Islamist Jihadism... [View all]
Silent3
May 2013
OP
i get the need for that distinction.. less need here than on 'atlas shrugs'..
Phillip McCleod
May 2013
#12
Because there is no consistency between Muslims. If there were consistancy then there
snagglepuss
May 2013
#38
Highly recommended. A reminder that religion isn't harmful until you take it seriously.
dimbear
May 2013
#3
Not sure Muxin was saying that those who "misinterpret" Muslim texts are not true Muslims
Meshuga
May 2013
#35
Not sure he claimed others were no true Muslims for having the wrong interpretation
Meshuga
May 2013
#64
It doesn't matter that extremists have an idiotic understanding of Islam. What matters is that they
snagglepuss
May 2013
#32
Not all philosophies and ideologies have so much, er, let's generously call it "ambiguous"...
Silent3
May 2013
#65
Whether you're trying to make anyone believe your interpretation is besides the point
Silent3
May 2013
#70
So, you are saying that believing any given dogma does not necessarily lead to overt violence.
LiberalAndProud
May 2013
#79
Can you point me to where Rizvi claims that Jihadism represents Islam's best practice?
LiberalAndProud
May 2013
#80
Of course it goes without saying that not all religious people are violent.
LiberalAndProud
May 2013
#92
You've probably seen a set of books called the Interpreters' Bible, which blows the
dimbear
May 2013
#28
"criticism of religion isn't a demonstration of bigotry but a struggle against it."
snagglepuss
May 2013
#29