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In reply to the discussion: Does God have a Personality? [View all]

LostOne4Ever

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35. I remember being in a scientific ethics class
Fri May 17, 2013, 07:28 PM
May 2013

And we were debating, if I recall right, euthanasia. We had this one fundamentalist there and a liberal Christian challenged him on his view of god. The liberal Christian said the fundamentalists view of Christianity made god sounded like a cruel, mean, bigot and that those "were the traits of man not god." The Fundamentalist responded, "well we were created in God's image, so if those are traits of man they must be traits of God too." The liberal Christian disagreed with him furiously.

My views of the God of the old testament are very mal-theistic. He drowned families begging Moses to save their children, killed the first born children of the people of Egypt because of the sins of the Pharaoh, and said:


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20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


So when I think of Elohim/Jehovah I think Jealous and Cruel. Then along comes Jesus with his "don't judge unless ye be judged" and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" teaching (the latter having been taught by others long before him) and then hes sounding alot nicer....BUT he also brings up the concept of Hell and the apocalypse.

Further, Hell isn't for those who are evil and wicked...its for non-believers only. Doesn't matter if you spend your whole life helping others...no belief and you go to hell. So he goes from jealous and cruel to Loving,Proud and arrogant ! So overall hes Proud, arrogant, jealous, and cruel but he loves you despite the fact he will banish you to hell for all eternity for not giving him attention.

Personally, Im not a fan.

When I think of the God of Thomas Paine, I think disinterested and neutral. Boring =P
He's indifferent to me and I am indifferent to him.

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Does God have a Personality? [View all] CJCRANE May 2013 OP
ascribing a human-style personality to God is limiting in the extreme annabanana May 2013 #1
This is a great response. cbayer May 2013 #5
Love is a human emotion. trotsky May 2013 #15
Not to mention anger, jealousy and a few others skepticscott May 2013 #41
Kind of a Zen response. longship May 2013 #16
But it's to be expected as god is an invention of the human mind. stopbush May 2013 #51
According to the Bible he seems to have mood swings. I like to think God is always happy. hrmjustin May 2013 #2
If you're just going to invent skepticscott May 2013 #42
Well I suppose you could do that, but I am not going to. hrmjustin May 2013 #43
Jesus Christ says skepticscott May 2013 #48
Yes Jesus did not come to make things warm and fuzzy. He came to tell humanity to hrmjustin May 2013 #49
According to St. George aristocles May 2013 #3
That bit never, ever gets old... Blue Owl May 2013 #29
Yep libodem May 2013 #4
That sounds a bit like the Tao to me... CJCRANE May 2013 #8
Without fail, a believer's notion of god is essentially their idealized self. trotsky May 2013 #6
This seems true for me. hrmjustin May 2013 #7
If HE or you are happy Bay Boy May 2013 #12
Good point! hrmjustin May 2013 #13
Insightful! Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #52
God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. Buzz Clik May 2013 #9
Kind of like Andy Kaufman? Goblinmonger May 2013 #19
So was Any Kaufman God? LongTomH May 2013 #32
If there actually is a god, I hope it's Andy Kaufman. Goblinmonger May 2013 #40
He's a nasty fucker. Scuba May 2013 #10
I think we should blame humans and not God for our choices. hrmjustin May 2013 #20
I certainly do. Scuba May 2013 #21
Who created humans, and made it part of their fundamental nature... trotsky May 2013 #22
Well we evolved like that. Why God allowed that I do not know, but I do not blame him for hrmjustin May 2013 #23
We are imperfect beings, and (if you believe your god created us)... trotsky May 2013 #24
Only if you consider the ability to choose to be imperfection. rug May 2013 #26
I guess so! hrmjustin May 2013 #38
Of course not. That god of yours only seems to get credit for stuff, never the blame. Arugula Latte May 2013 #31
I'm wondering if you believe in a god that is omnipotent. Arugula Latte May 2013 #30
I have not seen God nor do I know the extent of his abilities. hrmjustin May 2013 #37
Forget choices, did we choose to be vulnerable to disease, to have earthquakes, wildfires... Humanist_Activist May 2013 #39
I must say, that's expected. LiberalAndProud May 2013 #44
Either way LostOne4Ever May 2013 #45
"The Nazis gassed me" or "I choked on a peanut" or "I sat down in front of a tank..." hunter May 2013 #46
I guess what's "wrong" with me is that I don't believe in the supernatural ... Scuba May 2013 #47
He seems to have mellowed out since the Old Testament days... Bay Boy May 2013 #11
This is one that is very difficult. longship May 2013 #14
Yes, dog is a big fat zero, zilch nada. If not made up wouldn't know it was there! on point May 2013 #17
He's the REAL unknown comic! n/t woodsprite May 2013 #18
Mark Twain's opinion. ChazInAz May 2013 #25
I think God must have put himself on Prozac between the time notadmblnd May 2013 #27
Yes, the Omnitype Blue Owl May 2013 #28
The god of Judeo-christian religions, the god of Abraham, kestrel91316 May 2013 #33
Clearly he's a psychopath who delights in not only watching, SheilaT May 2013 #34
I remember being in a scientific ethics class LostOne4Ever May 2013 #35
I think human reasoning only works well for earthly things goldent May 2013 #36
He can have whatever personality you want - He's a fictional character. backscatter712 May 2013 #50
Fallacy of Assumption Brainstormy May 2013 #53
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