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ZombieHorde

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41. The most commonly believed fairy tales I run into in my day to day life

Fri May 24, 2013, 03:00 PM

May 2013

are the existence of human rights, war, governments, laws, organizations, etc. I think some people forget that these words are for the sake of convenience, and don't reflect anything real outside of our imagination and language. I try to be careful when I run into these fairly tales because I don't want to insult the person by assuming they don't know the difference between rhetorical constructs and non-rhetorical constructs, but sometimes the person I am talking to takes the rhetoric for more than what it is. The other day I felt compelled to explain to someone that war was imaginary because they were justifying some behavior I did not like under the "war is hell" clause.

Non-believers how do you deal with people who say you are missing something and will not get to heaven?

I have only seen this once, and it was on DU, and the poster was trying to make a broader point, if I remember correctly. Since I don't really run into this, it's not something I generally think about.

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How do you react when people tell you that you believe in fairy tales? [View all] hrmjustin May 2013 OP

I check off #17 of the talking points list. rug May 2013 #1

lol! hrmjustin May 2013 #3

Indeed. longship May 2013 #4

Oooh, we should post competing checlists! rug May 2013 #5

DUzy longship May 2013 #7

Claude Shannon would be proud goldent May 2013 #49

Well, now I had to google him. Interesting stuff. rug May 2013 #50

hahah, I've seen people EvilAL May 2013 #60

Proverbs 12:15-16 rug May 2013 #81

Now I know you're serious, EvilAL May 2013 #85

OT, but we should all be applying Pascal's wager to global warming.... truebluegreen May 2013 #6

That's the problem with Pascal's wager. longship May 2013 #10

I'd say you are being too literal with my suggestion. truebluegreen May 2013 #12

Well, this thread/group isn't about climate. longship May 2013 #13

That's probably why I put "OT" for "off-topic" in my first post. truebluegreen May 2013 #14

I usually treat them with more courtesy and kindness than vice-versa BlueJazz May 2013 #2

I love fairy tales, and have studied them a bit. It's remarkable how far back they go, dimbear May 2013 #8

If mine are fact based and theirs are delusional, I demote them to fools and put them on ignore on point May 2013 #9

I send Einstein riding a unicorn over to kick thier ass. nt rrneck May 2013 #11

"I ain't missin' shit." Iggo May 2013 #15

Are we talking about LostOne4Ever May 2013 #16

I mean theism in general. hrmjustin May 2013 #17

I like your answer LostOne4Ever May 2013 #18

Sometimes I wonder if we are an experiment. hrmjustin May 2013 #19

That is what I thought as a Deist LostOne4Ever May 2013 #20

I don't ever get told that Marrah_G May 2013 #21

BTW, the Biblical book which is most like a fairy tale is Tobit. dimbear May 2013 #22

Both situations involve taking the position that someone knows the truth. cbayer May 2013 #23

Well that's interesting. trotsky May 2013 #24

Ahh, the old "but you can't prove it doesn't exist" reply straight from the apologists play book. cleanhippie May 2013 #25

You can't prove he doesn't exist. hrmjustin May 2013 #26

Is that a joke too? cleanhippie May 2013 #29

LOl just wanted to get a laugh out of you my friend. hrmjustin May 2013 #30

I think that when we die, we won't know anything. cleanhippie May 2013 #32

Well we will find out. hrmjustin May 2013 #33

I don't think we will. cleanhippie May 2013 #36

Unless there is an afterlife. hrmjustin May 2013 #38

An "afterlife" has such a high improbability of existing, it takes the rejection of reality to think cleanhippie May 2013 #39

from my brief experience with death, i agree...we won`t remember/know anything madrchsod May 2013 #52

I couldn't agree more. If a person was strong in his/her upaloopa May 2013 #31

So you're condemning mission programs at all churches, then? trotsky May 2013 #37

Yes I guess I am. upaloopa May 2013 #40

show me a repeatable method of observing a faerie and I will believe in faeries. nt. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #48

I have no idea what this has to do with the topic at hand. cbayer May 2013 #55

no of course you don't. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #57

Perhaps you could elaborate, or I guess you could just use it as an opportunity cbayer May 2013 #59

Uh - you started in with the antagonism. But fine... Warren Stupidity May 2013 #63

No antagonism meant and I'm not sure why it came across that way. cbayer May 2013 #83

You continue to harp on skepticscott May 2013 #58

I think you're only partially right, but it brings up an interesting point EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #64

I hear you believe in fairy tales all the time. hrmjustin May 2013 #65

In real life? EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #66

My family say it all the time to me. hrmjustin May 2013 #67

There's probably a familiarity there EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #68

Yes several times. hrmjustin May 2013 #69

I have a really hard time believing that EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #70

I live in NYC! hrmjustin May 2013 #71

That could make a difference EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #72

I am so very sorry to hear that. You think people would just let people be. hrmjustin May 2013 #73

Most are well intentioned EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #74

I never tell people what they should believe. It is just so rude. hrmjustin May 2013 #75

That's definitely something we can agree on EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #76

They would not tkae kindly to it. hrmjustin May 2013 #78

I attended an Episcopalian church after deciding I was an atheist EvolveOrConvolve May 2013 #79

Hour and a half service for me and beers after at brunch. hrmjustin May 2013 #80

Interestingly, I hear the first on DU frequently but not the second. cbayer May 2013 #82

I hide under a bridge..... clarice May 2013 #27

I say that we should co-exist and it shouldn't upaloopa May 2013 #28

As a "non-believer," I remind them that "religion" and "myth" have similar definitions KansDem May 2013 #34

I don't tell all religious people that they LuvNewcastle May 2013 #35

The most commonly believed fairy tales I run into in my day to day life ZombieHorde May 2013 #41

Oddly enough, no one has ever said this to me in real life. okasha May 2013 #42

Generally the people who believe in evil fairy tales tell me I can't go to their heaven, for... Humanist_Activist May 2013 #43

#17, #12, #39 rug May 2013 #44

What the fuck do those numbers mean? n/t Humanist_Activist May 2013 #45

Aarne Thompson numbers, used to classify fairy tales. Usually just written dimbear May 2013 #46

The glossary will be published shortly. rug May 2013 #47

I think I'm going to get stoned and listen to that Talking Heads' song: Heaven Kolesar May 2013 #51

Oh, I fuck with their heads, especially the ones who tell me I'm going to hell. Warpy May 2013 #53

The fairy tales thing has become a cliche in DU - it makes me feel like I do when a web page takes goldent May 2013 #54

I have also never run into anyone IRL who says such things.... cbayer May 2013 #56

In all fairness LostOne4Ever May 2013 #62

You are speaking of anti-theists, imo. cbayer May 2013 #84

I really don't care if people think I'm missing something EvilAL May 2013 #61

I just laugh notadmblnd May 2013 #77