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(82,333 posts)15. Well, as far as the OP is concerned, the best I can do is point you here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_consistency_of_the_Bible
Personally, I have no taste for parsing Scripture. Acknowledging that it has been parsed, picked and probed for over two thousand years, I am content to defer to the scholarship that exists.
When I encounter something that doesn't make sense, I look up what they have said about it. I have yet to encounter something that hasn't been encountered before. If what I find does not make sense, I keep looking. I almost always find the answer. That's one reason I remain Catholic, they've been at it a very long time.
That said, living the religion is to me the greater part of it.
BTW, Catholic doctrine does not hold that salvation can be obtained by acts alone. No one can earn it. But it does teach this:
Personally, I have no taste for parsing Scripture. Acknowledging that it has been parsed, picked and probed for over two thousand years, I am content to defer to the scholarship that exists.
When I encounter something that doesn't make sense, I look up what they have said about it. I have yet to encounter something that hasn't been encountered before. If what I find does not make sense, I keep looking. I almost always find the answer. That's one reason I remain Catholic, they've been at it a very long time.
That said, living the religion is to me the greater part of it.
BTW, Catholic doctrine does not hold that salvation can be obtained by acts alone. No one can earn it. But it does teach this:
James 2:14-26
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, Depart in peace, be warmed and filled, but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without your[a] works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believeand tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[c] 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, Depart in peace, be warmed and filled, but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without your[a] works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believeand tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[c] 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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But if a person is acting contrary to what Christ taught and claims to be a Christian, pointing that
hrmjustin
Jun 2013
#72
You are correct that there are no true Christians, but we still need to practice what we preach.
hrmjustin
Jun 2013
#74
Sorry to put wrds in your mouth and I would never say that last line you posted and I do not know
hrmjustin
Jun 2013
#76
sounds like you just described searching for the right justifications..
Phillip McCleod
May 2013
#21
The truth is something you have to find in your own heart. I agree with cbayer's comments.
MissMarple
Jun 2013
#96
As a believing Episcopalian/Anglican I use the three legged stool for my faith.
hrmjustin
May 2013
#17
that stuff was written by iron age people, somewhat less ignorant, and equally superstitious.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2013
#65
Have you got anything to back up your assertion about the New Testament being molded in the
Leontius
Jun 2013
#82
No offense, but it only pretends to stem from the Bronze Age. In fact, nothing in the Bible
dimbear
May 2013
#56
In the Old Testament, the first books are the laws of the early Jewish people
JDPriestly
Jun 2013
#59
Well, maybe cultural habit, insularity, superstition, naivete, and fear play their parts.
MissMarple
Jun 2013
#105