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In reply to the discussion: Feminists can be Christians, too [View all]

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
21. I am trying to quote the Christian Holy Bible.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 02:02 PM
Feb 2012
1 Corinthians 11

1 Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

On Covering the Head in Worship

2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.

13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16 If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.


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Feminists can be dummies, too. provis99 Jan 2012 #1
And provis99, you've convinced me. DU'ers can be bigots too. Swamp Lover Jan 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jan 2012 #9
Intelligent people have been religious for all of human history, all over the world. kwassa Feb 2012 #14
Some intelligent people aren't religious Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #68
To do so, she must pretend that much of Paul's teachings are not in the faith Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #3
Some need to decide whether they are Paulists or Christians. Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #5
No True Scotsman. provis99 Jan 2012 #6
Knee jerk response. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #31
brilliant display of logic. provis99 Feb 2012 #38
Of course they can! Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #4
the mistake is confusing "christian" with "religious" pnwest Jan 2012 #7
The vast majority of religion, and the vast majority of Christian churches, darkstar3 Jan 2012 #8
I've never assumed that. Swamp Lover Feb 2012 #10
I don't find your contributions here interesting. QED. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #12
Why did you avoid his question? kwassa Feb 2012 #13
Did you happen to miss darkstar3 Feb 2012 #15
Attack the messenger rather than deal with his message. kwassa Feb 2012 #17
Wrong. Again you ignore that it was a direct response to the question at hand. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #18
I ignore nothing. kwassa Feb 2012 #24
Just what was the question? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #27
Contradiction in itself does not constitute an argument. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author kwassa Feb 2012 #44
Amazing how some presume to think they know how everyone of an organization or group thinks. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #32
Be thankful for the increasing number that do nt Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #69
Let's be thankful for increasing number that do nt Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #70
Jesus Christ said men are the head of women, so a feminist Christians have ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #11
What exactly are you trying to quote? struggle4progress Feb 2012 #20
I am trying to quote the Christian Holy Bible. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #21
This is Paul, not Jesus, who says this. And, maybe not Paul, either. kwassa Feb 2012 #25
So parts of the bible aren't what many people think they are? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #28
No. kwassa Feb 2012 #39
Yes. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #42
so, you have the power to change my answer to whatever you think it should be? kwassa Feb 2012 #46
I have the power to recognize when someone is being obtuse cleanhippie Feb 2012 #48
Like I said, pick and choose. No part of the Christian Holy Bible was written by Jesus Christ. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #30
Of course not. No one said that Jesus wrote it. kwassa Feb 2012 #40
No, that was Paul. Another reason why I make distinction between Paulists and Christians. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #33
No book in the Christian Holy Bible is attributed to Jesus. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #34
This argument you are making doesn't make much sense. kwassa Feb 2012 #41
"Pick and choose" wasn't an argument; it was an observation. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #45
It's called a rational approch to literary criticism nt Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #71
Wouldn't a rational approach consider all the miracles and supernatural parts metaphors? ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #73
Which means you engage in fallacy. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #36
Most of the female Christian clergy I know are quite feminist. kwassa Feb 2012 #16
I'm trying to remember a saying...how does it go... darkstar3 Feb 2012 #19
and many thousands of exceptions to this one ... kwassa Feb 2012 #22
Agree cbayer Feb 2012 #23
"thousands of exceptions"...all of them Episcopal, I'm sure. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #37
"Today, over half of all American Protestant denominations ordain women, kwassa Feb 2012 #43
See, now you're just amusing me. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #47
I'm glad you are amused by being wrong. It is big of you. kwassa Feb 2012 #49
There are so many things wrong with your post that it's hard to know where to begin. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #50
It is too bad you can't point out what is wrong. kwassa Feb 2012 #61
In response: darkstar3 Feb 2012 #63
What? Many of those denominations ordain women ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #51
Good for them. That doesn't mean those denominations treat women equally. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #52
In what way do they not? ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #54
Go read the wiki post, darkstar3 Feb 2012 #56
Well let's look at your checklist in my church ButterflyBlood Feb 2012 #59
You really think it was a "checklist"? darkstar3 Feb 2012 #60
You are wrong once again. kwassa Feb 2012 #62
When I was younger, women's church groups tended to focus on one of two things, sometimes both Nikia Feb 2012 #67
Facts trump moving goal posts. rug Feb 2012 #53
Yes they do. Ordination is not equality. Switching to ordination was moving the goal posts. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #57
I suspect your complaint is not really about equality. rug Feb 2012 #58
Ordination is the most powerful position in a church. It is equality. kwassa Feb 2012 #64
That's not what you said a few minutes ago. darkstar3 Feb 2012 #65
Are you certain? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #66
I son't know where you got your list from, Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #72
An "insider" is "always a better source than an outsider." darkstar3 Feb 2012 #74
Who the hell CAN'T be a Christian? AlbertCat Feb 2012 #26
Winner. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #29
Yes, the above comment is a winner, for sure. n/t MarkCharles Feb 2012 #55
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