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In reply to the discussion: Why I'm Not an Atheist: The Case for Agnosticism [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)One I often offer to my Christian friends is that even if I could be convinced the resurrection/Jesus myth was true, and that he 'lives', and is the 'way', etc.
I would reject it on moral grounds. I would not share in the profits of the scapegoating, torture, and murder of a man. I would reject the rules of any metaphysical god that arranged the world and humanity so, that I MUST share in that atrocious crime to profit, and that there is no other way forward. I would not do it myself. I would not share a piece of it, willingly, even amortized across the souls of billions saved since that time.
As Dostoyevsky wrote through the words of one of his characters (Ivan):
"I would seek to return the price of the ticket".
Going a step beyond my evaluation of the morality of such a proposition, if I *am* created, I am as my creator designed me. I can hardly be held to account for behaving as intended. For expressing my nature. Hypothetically speaking toward the idea of a personal god and creator; if I am to be condemned for rejecting, according to my innate morality, such a proposition by way of logic, reason, compassion, etc, then at the end of the day, such a creator didn't take time to know me. (Or possibly cruel, in the fashion of 'created sick, commanded to be well) And if that is the case, I do not care to know such a creator, and will accept the price of that decision. (Dostoyevsky frames that decision as 'rebellion', and I accept the charge, I suppose, if the rules and intent of such a god is accurately laid out to begin with, I certainly reject it.)
But of course, that is a bridge beyond since I do not believe any of it.
Would you accept the moral proposition of a god that hypothetically built the concept of salvation for humanity upon the scapegoating of a truly pure being?
"One can hardly live in rebellion, and I want to live. Tell me yourself, I challenge your answer. Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end, giving them peace and rest at last, but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creaturethat baby beating its breast with its fist, for instanceand to found that edifice on its un-avenged tears, would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell the truth.
Remember, said omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent being created the rules and us according to those rules, knowing at the start the outcome, and the one path that must be erected based on those rules. (Allegedly)