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In reply to the discussion: Why I'm Not an Atheist: The Case for Agnosticism [View all]cascadiance
(19,537 posts)229. I hold no ill will or judgment to those who believe in god or believe there is no god either...
To say that those of us that want to distinguish ourselves as being agnostic and questioning whether we know anything of what the afterlife (if there is one or not) holds for us from those who believe there is no such thing, or those who believe that is structured a certain way, is putting us in to a box that I don't think fits our beliefs.
I'm quite comfortable acknowledging that the person next to me is an atheist and feels confident of their own personal feelings beliefs of not having a god and consider them a valuable part of society and having valuable perspectives to look at.
I feel the same towards those who are solidly Christian in their beliefs, and use its structure of beliefs to help guide them spiritually in making a good life better for themselves and others around them too. Or for that matter, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, etc.
But I don't want them projecting their beliefs of atheism (the need to say there is no god), or another religion (the need to say to me I need to accept Christ) on to me. That I have a problem with. I like to consider myself an open book, until I have a personal revelation one way or the other if that comes at some point. I think it is a highly personal thing, that is shaped by our lives we live in. I hear others, and at some point might accept someone else's beliefs if it at some point I see the reality of those beliefs. But I haven't to this point, and value that I'm open to all different points of view. It allows me to look at all of the common belief systems and atheist beliefs and those values people have when having such beliefs, and seeing what I see as common good personal moral values of all of them, and that structures my beliefs that there MIGHT Be something out there that is god like that influences all of those different religious beliefs in the same way to help society be good to each other.
I don't believe myself "superior" as an agnostic to others, and am not trying to dismiss everyone else, that some here say that agnostics are trying to do. I just want to have my own space for my own beliefs or my own questioning of my own beliefs and not to be judged or lumped in to some other belief category that I don't really belong to. It's just a personal thing. Nothing more! I think, though don't know, that I probably share the same viewpoint with a lot of agnostics out there.
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I can explain it to you... but I'm pretty sure you don't want an explanation.
defacto7
Jun 2013
#185
I am sorry Skeptiscott for what I said and I guess you are right in the end.
hrmjustin
May 2013
#125
I hold no ill will or judgment to those who believe in god or believe there is no god either...
cascadiance
Jun 2013
#229
And those that don't try to lump me in a category are far more apt to shape my beliefs than others..
cascadiance
Jun 2013
#236
No insult taken, and I hope that you did not take my previous post as an insult either.
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2013
#245
You can only give me an expert opinion on what being an atheist means to you.
Big Blue Marble
Jun 2013
#168
At risk of being really insulting, I am beginning to question your reading comprehension.
Big Blue Marble
Jun 2013
#172
Have you really missed all the insulting comments that atheists have made in this forum alone? N/T
Big Blue Marble
May 2013
#25
Ask an agnostic if they believe in a god, there answer determines if they are a theist or atheist...
Humanist_Activist
May 2013
#16
How do you label those that answer that they don't know or that they don't care?
cbayer
May 2013
#53
No, you aren't an agnostic on Israel/Palestine, you take no position.
Humanist_Activist
May 2013
#99
What reputable sources? And in what way does neutrality equal unknowable? n/t
Humanist_Activist
May 2013
#101
I am not sure what that means either, but I see it used more and more frequently.
cbayer
May 2013
#105
Even that meaning you listed makes no sense, words and terms such as...
Humanist_Activist
May 2013
#108
And if I answer "i don't know and I don't really care", which box would you put me in?
cbayer
May 2013
#65
Being confident and honest enough to say "I don't know" is IMO a wonderful and valuable trait.
eomer
Jun 2013
#200
Here's the definition from a 1969 hard-bound American Heritage Dictionary I had handy:
eomer
May 2013
#115
Of course I've read all your words; I just find that your approach makes no sense to me.
eomer
Jun 2013
#154
Lol. Are you really saying that anyone who calls themselves agnostic is mentally ill?
cbayer
Jun 2013
#203
You can be as definitive as you want, but that doesn't mean you have the right answer.
cbayer
Jun 2013
#230
Indeed - if you think there is a cause, outside the universe, for the universe
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#50
An open mind does not accept any crazy idea just becasue it can't be proved false.
bowens43
May 2013
#51
There is a possibility of the existence of a male bipod God who looks like us?
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2013
#57
Sorry, but it doesn't seem that everyone here allows for a variety of beliefs
Bad Thoughts
May 2013
#137
Do you disagree with the Christians and Jews who say that there are not?
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2013
#66
Your clear understanding of the simple binary condition of these two concepts
defacto7
Jun 2013
#179
If you consider yourself an Agnostic, do you live your live as if God exists or if he/she/it doesnt?
brooklynite
May 2013
#145
Are those of us who consider ourselves both agnostic and atheist wrong in some way?
Fumesucker
Jun 2013
#156
OK, the existence of God is *less* likely than the existence of the Tooth Fairy, then . . .
MrModerate
Jun 2013
#181
Baddar is making a simple point: in the face of uncertainty, we can't be certain.
Jim__
Jun 2013
#212
A Universe from Nothing: Why there is something rather than nothing by Lawrence Krauss.
Jim__
Jun 2013
#223
How is it that people are so certain their idea of "absolute nothing" is even possible?
enki23
Jun 2013
#237
The part that churned by stomach was his justification for reaching that probability...
Act_of_Reparation
Jun 2013
#243