Why I'm Not an Atheist: The Case for Agnosticism

[enki23]

237. How is it that people are so certain their idea of "absolute nothing" is even possible?

Some guy thinks it's better to say "agnostic" rather than "atheist" based on the "Why is there something, rather than nothing" trope. Whee, we don't have perfect knowledge. Whee, there's a gap somewhere where something like a god might not be completely impossible. There is nothing new or interesting here, at all. And it has absolutely fuck-all to do with the agnostic/atheist thing.

"Nothing" is the only thing that "something" can come from. "Something" in the sense of "existence itself" can't come from any other "something." Because you already had "something". Maybe your something can gain mass, or reproduce parts of itself. So what? Those are the sorts of things that a something can, clearly, do. Really, what is it that you think you mean by "come from?" You're talking about the ultimate origin, if it exists, of "something," of existence itself. But if you already have something existing, then it isn't a fucking origin. The only *possible* origin of "something," if there is an origin at all, is "nothing". And if you want to call that nothing "god," then have at it. Your god is nothing. I concur.

And I'm not sure the question even means anything anyway. One thing we can be all but sure of is that, no matter how many universes there are that exist, the number of universes that *don't* exist is uncountably infinite. The question shouldn't be "why is there something, rather than nothing". There *is* nothing. There's unimaginably much nothing. All that nothing that doesn't exist is literally limitless. The question should actually be "why is there nothing *and* something, rather than just nothing?" And the only reasonable answer to that is a raised eyebrow. This question is about as relevant to the potential existence of universe-creating intelligences as is the question of what I ate for breakfast.

(Hint: if you feel the urge to say that my breakfast choice *is* a relevant question, because it shows that there is a) something for breakfast rather than nothing for breakfast or b) blah blah... free will.. blah blah, or anything else of that sort. Don't. Just... don't. Fight the urge to be a trite idiot. Really, just fight it.)