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cbayer

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22. There is no correlation between intelligence and religious beliefs, so anyone

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:59 AM

Jun 2013

who makes such claims can be easily dismissed.

The OP is pure flame bait. He says he started this to continue a discussion about how it is difficult to win elected positions if one has no religious affiliation, which is a valid discussion.

But the OP included needlessly provocative and offensive language and made the proposals that Obama is a liar and that intelligence is correlated with religiosity.

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Is President Obama secretly an atheist, who fakes being a Christian for political reasons? [View all] Nye Bevan Jun 2013 OP

I love the smell of flamebait in the morning SecularMotion Jun 2013 #1

Inspired by this post, as well as many similar ones: Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #2

A suggestion SecularMotion Jun 2013 #3

Thanks for the suggestion (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #4

Even better idea WovenGems Jun 2013 #71

You forgot another choice: Don't care Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #5

My general assumption is that people who really don't care don't click on the thread. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #6

However, as I said Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #11

Some of us think it's important skepticscott Jun 2013 #15

I was looking for the same choice. goldent Jun 2013 #60

Yes. Iggo Jun 2013 #7

I think Jimmy Carter was our last actual Christian president... RevStPatrick Jun 2013 #8

Why do you think that? trotsky Jun 2013 #9

The flipside, that actually IS seen on DU... trotsky Jun 2013 #10

You should give more gradations - I have the Soul-o-scope so I know, but most people don't el_bryanto Jun 2013 #12

Would it matter if he was? nt auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #13

Does it really matter what anyone's religious beliefs are? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #14

To me, it doesn't matter what your beliefs are auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #16

Thank you. whathehell Jun 2013 #31

Unfortunately it's human nature to generalize auburngrad82 Jun 2013 #34

got that right - +1 DrDan Jun 2013 #56

Admittedly anecdotal, but people at work assume I'm Christian because I'm NICE. Still Blue in PDX Jun 2013 #17

This is very, very much a US phenomenon. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #19

I think he is a faithful Christian. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #18

People that say the Obama is "too smart to believe in invisible sky monsters" cbayer Jun 2013 #20

I agree. It implies those of us who believe are idiots. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #21

There is no correlation between intelligence and religious beliefs, so anyone cbayer Jun 2013 #22

I didn't invent the term "invisible sky monsters", Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #24

No, you just chose to use it. It's offensive to believers. cbayer Jun 2013 #26

Maybe not, but you DID make this claim in your post: trotsky Jun 2013 #27

Correct...He should also bag the stupid, quite bigoted "skymonster" definition of Christianity whathehell Jun 2013 #29

Actually, only one other person has used it once on DU muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #44

Hmmm. My Google seems to work better than yours. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #50

Ah, Google didn't show up results using the singular muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #53

Another? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #57

That's one of the "not a good idea to put it this way" posts muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #63

You claimed it was said "frequently." trotsky Jun 2013 #67

Actually there is a correlation. Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #35

You may want to avoid this scientific paper: dimbear Jun 2013 #40

Andrew Brown reviewed that paper. Jim__ Jun 2013 #41

All those IQ comparisons are a little scary, but it's safe to say dimbear Jun 2013 #46

The question of what can be inferred from any correlation is also important. Jim__ Jun 2013 #47

I've no problem with trying to minimize the number, or to explain its causes. dimbear Jun 2013 #49

Why would I want to avoid it? cbayer Jun 2013 #59

Here's one in full as a pdf: dimbear Jun 2013 #61

I think I have read something similar about fundamentalism, but cbayer Jun 2013 #68

As a matter of fact, I do think that papers by Richard Lynn should be avoided! LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #65

In going further I see that this paper is rather infamous. The truth seems to be dimbear Jun 2013 #69

But we do all think fundamentalists are crazy, right? DirkGently Jun 2013 #52

No, I don't think they are crazy. I just think they are wrong on the issues. cbayer Jun 2013 #58

I don't care. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #23

Thanks for your feedback. (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #25

Why are there only two choices?...He may be an agnostic. whathehell Jun 2013 #28

I think we've probably had some atheist Presidents who LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #30

What exactly do you mean by this: trotsky Jun 2013 #32

There are certain principles that, while they aren't LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #36

How much agreement do you think there is among Christians on these principles? trotsky Jun 2013 #37

Instead of interpreting what those teachings mean, LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #42

"Instead of interpreting..." trotsky Jun 2013 #43

You're talking to me as if I were a Christian and LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #45

As I have stated repeatedly, trotsky Jun 2013 #48

Haven't been here that long LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #33

In keeping with your reasoning, the probability that we've had a president with an IQ of 70 or ... Jim__ Jun 2013 #38

GWB (nt) LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #39

No "other?" MADem Jun 2013 #51

You are missing the obvious poll option: ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #54

Don't you mean that he's a secret MUSLIN? LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #66

a Christian - hence held in disdain by many here who find those that believe DrDan Jun 2013 #55

I don't know for sure but I think most atheists on this board... uriel1972 Jun 2013 #62

Obviously we can't tell what someone inwardly believes... LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #64

I would tend to put Obama in the category skepticscott Jun 2013 #70