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43. You may be right.

Reply to skepticscott (Reply #42)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:43 PM

Jun 2013

The latter is superstition, the former is prayer.

Why no, you're not.

Unsurprisingly.

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For atheists, all religion is superstition [View all] SecularMotion Jun 2013 OP

For a purportedly "sentient" species, chervilant Jun 2013 #1

I guess it's safe to assume that "the fear-based and hate-mongering masses" LTX Jun 2013 #71

Those who embrace and promote ideologies that chervilant Jun 2013 #78

Which, if you THINK about it, chervilant Jun 2013 #2

If you had the slightest understanding of what is happening in progressive religious circles, Thats my opinion Jun 2013 #61

O, DO tell! chervilant Jun 2013 #64

One form of prejudice Thats my opinion Jun 2013 #73

Well, christ on a cracker! chervilant Jun 2013 #79

Those rapturist-politicians feel like they are backed into a corner because they never grew up Kolesar Jun 2013 #3

Why do you atheists feel it necessary to keep beating this drum? Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #4

Still making up quotes, I see skepticscott Jun 2013 #5

Did you actually bother reading the article? intaglio Jun 2013 #7

All right, I exaggerated Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #10

Funny that you can't seem to make a case skepticscott Jun 2013 #13

Yes, I exaggerated Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #33

No you are not LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #35

Yes, you quote a lot of people skepticscott Jun 2013 #41

Ah, so you are calling me a liar Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #46

I see that atheists can falsely call believers liars. Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #50

"I shall be unsubscribing to the religion forum, where I am clearly unwelcome." cleanhippie Jun 2013 #52

Jury Results 0-6 Leave aikoaiko Jun 2013 #47

+1000000! cleanhippie Jun 2013 #51

An exaggeration LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #34

because you rigidly dogmatic believers refuse to hear it. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #14

LOLOL Skittles Jun 2013 #27

Those aren't exaggerations. Those are made up. Iggo Jun 2013 #39

The point is, only some atheists express such sentiments . . . MrModerate Jun 2013 #45

Thank you! chervilant Jun 2013 #65

My all-purpose response to questions of faith is . . . MrModerate Jun 2013 #68

Good all-purpose response. chervilant Jun 2013 #80

What an amazingly good question!!!!!!! gcomeau Jun 2013 #81

Fortunately, Silverman has no ability to speak for all atheists, given the shallowness of his post. rug Jun 2013 #6

"the attempt to manipulate reality by magic" is a better definition of prayer than of superstition muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #8

I see you and Silverman have something in common. rug Jun 2013 #9

From the Penguin English Dictionary: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #11

And? rug Jun 2013 #12

"Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth, as it is in heaven" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #15

"Your will be done" is a desire to be in rapport with God, not a plea to have God do our will. rug Jun 2013 #16

It's a request to a supernatural being skepticscott Jun 2013 #18

Speaking of blithering nonsense, I'll correct you. rug Jun 2013 #21

Show me where I said it WAS a superstition skepticscott Jun 2013 #25

Check the OP. That's the topic. rug Jun 2013 #26

I wasn't responding to the OP, now was I? skepticscott Jun 2013 #42

You may be right. rug Jun 2013 #43

Speaking of blithering nonsense, I'll correct you. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #49

I'm always game to hear more blithering nonsense. rug Jun 2013 #54

It's a desire that the whole earth be in rapport with god muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #22

What you think is the problem is precisely that, what you think is the problem. rug Jun 2013 #28

I think the Lord's Prayer fits this better than anything in Christian countries muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #29

You left out the rest of the definition, Penguin's definition that is. rug Jun 2013 #31

Conscious acts can change the future. Jim__ Jun 2013 #38

Yes, but you don't rely on a supernatural intermediary for the effect muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #40

Isn't the better counter-example Buddhist prayer? Bad Thoughts Jun 2013 #17

There are many profound prayer across the spectrum of human tradition. rug Jun 2013 #19

That's my spin Bad Thoughts Jun 2013 #20

Some Buddhist prayer may be just meditation muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #23

Some might call in meditation Bad Thoughts Jun 2013 #24

Yes, prayer is exactly that. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #48

Well that's persuasive. rug Jun 2013 #55

Hmmm. I am a nonbeliever, and . . . MrModerate Jun 2013 #69

What do you call a philosophy that contemplates God? rug Jun 2013 #76

I'd call that "philosophy" . . . MrModerate Jun 2013 #77

I have to agree with the title. goldent Jun 2013 #30

Buddhism LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #36

Some forms of Buddhism do not need to postulate a god. okasha Jun 2013 #74

True LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #75

Well, yeah. Iggo Jun 2013 #32

Religions that teach that god is distant, cold, indifferent and unresponsive deserve dimbear Jun 2013 #37

I don't think all religion is superstition. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #44

Of course all religion is superstition. stopbush Jun 2013 #53

So, as I read through this thread, religious folks seem to have durbin Jun 2013 #56

Your impression is wrong. rug Jun 2013 #57

I was simply asking for answers. You did not answer, but you durbin Jun 2013 #66

In the first place, prayer specifically and religion, generally, are attempts to come into contact rug Jun 2013 #67

Historically, the distinction between religion and superstition has held Bad Thoughts Jun 2013 #60

It's worth harking back to the Romans. A few minutes with a Latin dictionary show dimbear Jun 2013 #58

It is easy to knock down anti-scientific fundamntalists Thats my opinion Jun 2013 #59

Because anyone who sees things that way skepticscott Jun 2013 #62

Because science and religion are NOT EQUAL! cleanhippie Jun 2013 #63

Is any religion WovenGems Jun 2013 #70

IMO, very little difference between voodoo and Christianity and closeupready Jun 2013 #72