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cleanhippie

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14. If their entire premise is false yet they assert the opposite, how can try be taken seriously?
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jun 2013

Science and religion are not equal. There is no dispute over that.

I have never had a problem with separating both. In fact I think the catholic church southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #1
That really doesn't answer the question. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #5
For me they are equal. But honestly I think people go bonkers over this issue. But you southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #8
If one produces knowledge that is true for all and the other doesn't, how can they be equal? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #10
Your getting way to heavy for me. You tell me what you think. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #12
I already did in the OP. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #15
Well you take care. Maybe the big thinkers can get more into then I. I'm not an expert in southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #20
religion and science are not equals DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #78
to explain DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #79
So should we take seriously those who claim they are equal? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #90
no DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #95
One popular answer is skepticscott Jun 2013 #2
And yet religion cannot even answer the "why" at all. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #9
They have nothing to do with each other and should never be compared, contrasted or equated. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #3
Great answer. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #6
Unfortunately that is not true. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #24
I get that it happens, truebluegreen Jun 2013 #42
I don't think "equal" is a relevant metric here. TygrBright Jun 2013 #4
I would agree. So should we take seriously those who assert their equality? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #7
I imagine if they are serious, and you want to engage them fruitfully and respectfully... TygrBright Jun 2013 #11
If their entire premise is false yet they assert the opposite, how can try be taken seriously? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #14
Perhaps we could class religion with patriotism? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #17
agree... madrchsod Jun 2013 #13
Hard for me to marry the two subjects. janlyn Jun 2013 #16
I believe in both very much! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #18
And? skepticscott Jun 2013 #19
Just a statement my friend! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #23
Are they equal? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #31
Interesting question to with I do not know exactly how to respond. Science tells us how things work hrmjustin Jun 2013 #48
With respect, you are dodging the question with nonsense. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #53
For me yes. In the end yes. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #54
Then as the original question posed, why should you be taken seriously? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #55
People can take me how they want. I don't claim to be an expert on anything. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #57
Nope WovenGems Jun 2013 #21
Which is liquid and which is static? LTX Jun 2013 #32
Defined WovenGems Jun 2013 #33
Oh. Ok. LTX Jun 2013 #34
Truth WovenGems Jun 2013 #35
I think your reference points may be a bit too narrow. LTX Jun 2013 #37
Oxford Group WovenGems Jun 2013 #39
Now I know that your reference points are too narrow. n/t LTX Jun 2013 #40
And how does one expand the reference points? WovenGems Jun 2013 #41
Well, a start would be questioning your own LTX Jun 2013 #43
Religion hasn't changed for hundreds of years?? Thats my opinion Jun 2013 #69
I think you responded to the wrong post. n/t LTX Jun 2013 #70
So tell us then, what IS religion all about? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #74
Religion has indeed changed. trotsky Jun 2013 #45
They're different things entirely. rug Jun 2013 #22
He didn't ask whether they were the same thing... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #25
I didn't expect any straightforward answers to this. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #51
It's an appropriate answer to a poor question. rug Jun 2013 #59
He asked if they were equal. Period. rug Jun 2013 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jun 2013 #61
Of course you didn't. rug Jun 2013 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jun 2013 #64
That's exactly what you wrote. rug Jun 2013 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jun 2013 #71
He also wrote half a dozen other sentences... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #65
I did read the entire OP. rug Jun 2013 #67
Then you didn't read it very carefully Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #75
Apparently I read it more clearly than you. rug Jun 2013 #76
He does not have an answer. He never does. Its always the same, day after day, post after post. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #81
Some are simply unable to accept that they may be wrong. This is an example. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #72
Lol. rug Jun 2013 #77
See what I mean? More nonsensical bullshit. Always the same. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #60
Outside of mathematics, is anything really equal? ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #26
They really have completely different functions. Deep13 Jun 2013 #27
They might be equivalent forces in some lives Warpy Jun 2013 #28
Why not? Because that would be silly. bowens43 Jun 2013 #29
They ARE equal but their individual strengths are not Prophet 451 Jun 2013 #30
I would strongly disagree with this: trotsky Jun 2013 #36
"Religion/philosophy tells us" - religion "tells", philosophy "discusses". Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #38
Good distinction. trotsky Jun 2013 #44
Philosophy does not research Bad Thoughts Jun 2013 #46
talk to the theory of consciousness people about their lack of field research. nt. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #47
i think that definition of 'philosophy' is both overly restrictive.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #50
I don't suppose you have done any research into what philophsers actually do. Thats my opinion Jun 2013 #68
That is YOUR question up there, TMO. Why won't you respond to it? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #73
I guess the tough questions frighten you. And I can understand why. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #89
Phelps actually doesn't do that Prophet 451 Jun 2013 #82
You judge him,and he judges you. trotsky Jun 2013 #83
Morality is all about value judgements Prophet 451 Jun 2013 #84
How can you possibly know whether or not Phelps ALSO thinks his faith is based on trotsky Jun 2013 #85
No, but I can listen to his sermons Prophet 451 Jun 2013 #86
Again, how do you know? trotsky Jun 2013 #87
In order... Prophet 451 Jun 2013 #91
As long as you think you can read Phelps' mind... trotsky Jun 2013 #92
*sigh* I give up Prophet 451 Jun 2013 #93
Yeah, I know. trotsky Jun 2013 #94
Umm... gcomeau Jun 2013 #88
I've thought for some time now that moobu2 Jun 2013 #49
I think you nailed it. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #52
^^^^^ mike_c Jun 2013 #56
Like the rough sketch that led to an important painting, worth the attention dimbear Jun 2013 #62
Science is the application of physical processes to determine physical outcomes. Religion is the ladjf Jun 2013 #80
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