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cbayer

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1. Had to look up UPG - unverified personal gnosis, I am assuming.

Reply to rug (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:55 PM

Jun 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unverified_personal_gnosis

I like that concept and while I don't really *get* her religious leanings, I agree with her conclusions.

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Making Light: All Religions are UPG [View all] rug Jun 2013 OP

Had to look up UPG - unverified personal gnosis, I am assuming. cbayer Jun 2013 #1

It's discussed further down in the article. rug Jun 2013 #2

Caught me in not reading the whole thing, lol. cbayer Jun 2013 #4

When a claim is unprovable and unfalsifiable.... MellowDem Jun 2013 #3

You are limiting the term "rational" to "scientific". rug Jun 2013 #6

I'm not limiting the term... MellowDem Jun 2013 #9

That is not the premise. rug Jun 2013 #15

Yes, that is the premise... MellowDem Jun 2013 #18

"It's widely known and accepted." rug Jun 2013 #19

don't worry.. some of us bystanders read you loud and clear. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #21

That would be your problem right there. Well, one of them. gcomeau Jun 2013 #33

Of course you can. Let me tell you what your problem is. rug Jun 2013 #37

Wow... gcomeau Jun 2013 #38

No, read it again. rug Jun 2013 #39

ok, I read it again. gcomeau Jun 2013 #40

Good, then you should know we we were discussing the concept of rationality, not proof of God. rug Jun 2013 #41

Perhaps I am not the one who needs to read things again. gcomeau Jun 2013 #44

Since the unkowable is, well, unknown, I would argue that taking a cbayer Jun 2013 #8

You have the question wrong... MellowDem Jun 2013 #10

So do you claim to hold the truth? cbayer Jun 2013 #12

Sure, on some things... MellowDem Jun 2013 #14

But do you specifically claim to hold the truth on the existence of a god or gods? cbayer Jun 2013 #16

It is not similar to what fundamentalists do... MellowDem Jun 2013 #20

It's a lot like it, IMO. cbayer Jun 2013 #22

Not at all, it's called having a position... MellowDem Jun 2013 #27

God of the gaps Act_of_Reparation Jun 2013 #23

God of the gaps is an argument used to prove there is a god. cbayer Jun 2013 #24

what a wonderful post Stargazer99 Jun 2013 #5

They're not my words. The author has a pretty good blog at the link. rug Jun 2013 #7

Gnosis is the common Greek noun for knowledge durbin Jun 2013 #11

So it is. rug Jun 2013 #13

That's funny, I thought asking for personal information durbin Jun 2013 #17

I've had a lot of strange conversations in my life, including odd conversations about epistemology. rug Jun 2013 #25

"The basic concept of God is that it is unknowable" durbin Jun 2013 #26

What the hell are you talking about? rug Jun 2013 #28

Busted. rug Jun 2013 #30

Cool. I knew it was him but he really backed off when challenged. cbayer Jun 2013 #31

Damn, he's persistent. okasha Jun 2013 #35

Which is not a great quality when you just aren't very good at something. cbayer Jun 2013 #36

What about revelations from God that had to be exterminated along with the people that "heard" them? eomer Jun 2013 #42

Gauguin was a pig. That does not diminish his art. rug Jun 2013 #43

You said how you think we know things about God; my point is a different take on that. eomer Jun 2013 #45

Then we have two different opinions. rug Jun 2013 #46

Just to be clear, okasha Jun 2013 #47

I'd prefer not to be rude, so I'm merely going to characterize this article as "piffle" . . . MrModerate Jun 2013 #29

If UPG is roughly equivalent to unprovable gobbledygook, I concur. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #32

It is. gcomeau Jun 2013 #34