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Phillip McCleod

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22. exactly.. to 'do good' is the point of the masonic order..
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jun 2013

..as an ethical system and now as an institution it was central to the founding of enlightenment era democratic republics like the USA.

that said, there was and in some places there is a very ugly undercurrent. not all lodges are the same. the KKK is another masonic spinoff.. a sobering realization. despite the supposed openmindedness of masons, the center of much of the ritual is a certain book, present in the hall on an altar, and characters and moral lessons from a certain book.. the christian Bible.

meld the masonic obsession with knights and knighthood and monarchy and God as the Great Architect of the Universe with some good ole southern-fried bigotry and the result is a mess of No True Scotsmanship.

in general the masonic obsession with the pseudohistory involving the Knights Templar has somewhat poisoned the order. it wasn't until later masonic historians like Albert Mackey and A.E. Waite paved the way for historian historian Dame Frances Yates, that the origin of Masonry was finally pinned down..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Mackey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Yates

Masonry has roots in the much older hermetic order of Rosicrucians.. the Rose & Cross Order.. and is intimately related in it's founding with other Enlightenment institutions.. like the Royal Society of Science. these guys were Christian Utopianists of the first order, and wanted to completely revolutionize society around a sort of Johannine concept of Jesus as Logos - the Light of Reason and the Word of God.

much of the mythology is all made up to fit and synchretistic.. the story of pseudo-biblical character, Hiram Abiff.. the ancient origins myth involving the Knights Templar.. it's all inherited from the Rosicrucian sense of melodrama and mix and matched legends, documents and oral histories. some have even seen shades of Druidism and Mithraism in their rites and tales.. certainly they would like their ancient origin story to be true.

interestingly enough.. it might be. hermeticism is a half millennium older than christianity, and alchemy is older than that.

Ever visited a Masonic Temple? [View all] Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 OP
Um... TlalocW Jun 2013 #1
lol arely staircase Jun 2013 #7
Probably more filling than that Masonic Temple durbin Jun 2013 #11
i've gone to those here.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #24
No, but I have my great-grandfather's Masonic cufflinks. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #2
That's cool. You can either enter them with curiosity and an open mind or cbayer Jun 2013 #3
I love going into places far outside my world of experiences goldent Jun 2013 #4
I have been to Masonic Temples edhopper Jun 2013 #5
i think it was the architecture of the Knights Templar.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #25
The first time I stepped into a Lodge... jeepnstein Jun 2013 #6
I've spent quite a bit of time in them Marrah_G Jun 2013 #8
Likewise okasha Jun 2013 #9
'sanctuary' is an excellent word, imo.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #12
Yes. I thought it was nice. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #10
Bullshit boy's club. PassingFair Jun 2013 #13
thx for that.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #14
I thought it was cool of Jack White to pay their back taxes, as it IS a kick-ass.... PassingFair Jun 2013 #15
i've been asked to join thrice now. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #16
The European "fraternities" allow atheists. PassingFair Jun 2013 #17
yeh 'Bill' said.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #18
My father never joined, either. PassingFair Jun 2013 #19
exactly.. to 'do good' is the point of the masonic order.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #22
the grand lodge of scotland is among the oldest, btw. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #20
Go along to get along..... PassingFair Jun 2013 #21
interesting.. i was reading somewherez on teh webz.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #23
I saw the Rolling Stones perform here in 1978, for $10 a ticket. The "Some Girls" tour. kwassa Jun 2013 #26
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