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cbayer

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39. You are not alone in the experience that you describe and

Sun Jun 16, 2013, 02:12 PM

Jun 2013

it certainly makes no sense to stay affiliated with an institution that you have had this kind of experience with.

I think there are as many reasons for attending or not attending as there attendees and non-attendees.

Not sure what "my many" is. I know a wide variety of people who attend services and who do not. It's really hard to generalize why they do or don't.

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An atheist goes to church: The Catholic Church of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary [View all] rug Jun 2013 OP

many are there there simply because they were taught to believe it was a sin to miss Mass MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #1

And many are there because it has meaning and value for them. cbayer Jun 2013 #3

I didn't say they weren't. But AFAIC, as a very ex-Catholic, the only meaning it had was promoting MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #36

You are not alone in the experience that you describe and cbayer Jun 2013 #39

Why is he doing this? Just so he can mock others? cbayer Jun 2013 #2

Who are you to judge his motivations? nt PassingFair Jun 2013 #4

I am not judging his motivations. I am questioning them. cbayer Jun 2013 #6

When YOU make a sincere effort to understand why non-believers don't get what you do from it... cleanhippie Jun 2013 #12

Nothing judgemental here. Nothing at all. PassingFair Jun 2013 #16

Nor here. rug Jun 2013 #17

Nor here: PassingFair Jun 2013 #18

Nor here. rug Jun 2013 #21

Again, I did not walk into his house for the sole purpose of ridiculing him. cbayer Jun 2013 #20

Do you live in that church? PassingFair Jun 2013 #27

It's called a sanctuary for a reason. cbayer Jun 2013 #30

So is this place. PassingFair Jun 2013 #35

You might go in there and say the cages needed cleaning, or cbayer Jun 2013 #41

He poked them with sticks! That's just wrong! PassingFair Jun 2013 #42

OK. You appear to be part of his intended audience, so it's pretty clear cbayer Jun 2013 #44

I doubt you would be so *understanding* if this were aimed at a group you were a member of. PassingFair Jun 2013 #45

Yeah, more hypocrisy from that poster. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #62

Actually, YOU are his intended audience, and you have given the very expected response. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #60

One last thing.... PassingFair Jun 2013 #48

Lol, you caught me. I posted it solely to offend cbayer. rug Jun 2013 #54

I presumed you posted it to wind up theists with a "we're under attack by nasty atheists" message muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #69

Were you offended? rug Jun 2013 #72

No, but you know I'm not a theist muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #74

Do you think the article is offensive? rug Jun 2013 #75

No. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #76

Then what's the problem? rug Jun 2013 #77

Good - you think the article's fine, after all. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #78

No, I think he's an ass and the article is simple chumming. rug Jun 2013 #79

Then why did *you* ask *me* what the problem is? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #80

For something to offend it must first be offensive. rug Jun 2013 #81

Because some theists get needlessly offended muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #82

As do some atheists. rug Jun 2013 #83

Your posting of it here is the "chumming" PassingFair Jun 2013 #91

If you think that's chumming you should spend some more time here. rug Jun 2013 #95

Hahahahahahaha!!! What a most excellent response! cleanhippie Jun 2013 #9

Hahahahahahaha!!! Yes they are!!! rug Jun 2013 #13

Allow me. rug Jun 2013 #11

And my daughter replied, upon asking if she wanted to receive "the host": PassingFair Jun 2013 #14

I'm sure she's not. rug Jun 2013 #15

That's hilarious. Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #19

I must have missed "the pity brigade in here". Will you kindly point it out? rug Jun 2013 #23

............... Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #50

It looks like you're projecting. rug Jun 2013 #53

Uh-huh Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #59

Lol, I do see undies in a bunch but I can't say they're theists. rug Jun 2013 #61

"dare to say that going to church didn't make his sphincter tingle is amazing." cleanhippie Jun 2013 #63

Wait, he didn't poke them with pointed sticks? PassingFair Jun 2013 #90

One would think, right? Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #92

We had attended my niece's first communion, because she practically BEGGED us to come. PassingFair Jun 2013 #25

The response was at at best childish, and you claim it seemed appropriate, Leontius Jun 2013 #46

P.O.V. PassingFair Jun 2013 #47

So do you not think that the host in the RCC is the actual body of Christ? Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #51

No I think the response was childish as is your attempt to defend it . Leontius Jun 2013 #85

Christian AND meat-eating privilege in one post. Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #87

I'm sure that seemed really funny when you first thought of it Leontius Jun 2013 #89

And your understanding of your christian privilege is not even childish. It's willfully ignorant. cleanhippie Jun 2013 #66

I wasn't going to reply to your blathering but could you at least get your facts straight Leontius Jun 2013 #84

Your complaint is when christian evangelism in public-funded institutions is deemed unconstitutional cleanhippie Jun 2013 #86

Still at it I see, afraid to use the truth because it doesn't fit your agenda that's okay Leontius Jun 2013 #88

Repeating what you say is immoral? Do you even read what you write? cleanhippie Jun 2013 #93

He announced a few weeks ago he was going to spend the summer going to different churches. rug Jun 2013 #5

I missed that. cbayer Jun 2013 #8

No, i read one other visit but I haven't been following it closely. rug Jun 2013 #10

Actually, it seems to be communion bias. okasha Jun 2013 #96

Lol, I confess that was good. rug Jun 2013 #97

I suggest you read the first in the series intaglio Jun 2013 #52

Well then kudos to PZ for his detached investigation. rug Jun 2013 #56

The link goes to what he intends to do but it's easy to get from there to the cbayer Jun 2013 #58

The writer claims to be going to various church services in order to The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #7

Yes, he should be banned from all churches! PassingFair Jun 2013 #22

You have a very loose definition of "observation". rug Jun 2013 #24

So judgemental! nt PassingFair Jun 2013 #26

Isn't it? rug Jun 2013 #43

He can go if he wants to, and he's free to comment. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #28

It's his POV he's writing about not yours, not the "worshippers". PassingFair Jun 2013 #29

Here's what he said: The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #32

He didn't say he was going there to interview worshippers. PassingFair Jun 2013 #37

You are entitled to your opinion and you are entitled to post your opinion. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #38

He liked the music! PassingFair Jun 2013 #40

Excellent response and I agree. cbayer Jun 2013 #34

All are welcome at god's table. xchrom Jun 2013 #31

I think we should get together and stone this PZ Myers. Make sure he get's a real good stoning. BlueJazz Jun 2013 #33

Careful with that chocolate milk intaglio Jun 2013 #55

... Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #49

And? rug Jun 2013 #57

The writer is correct in his criticism of the church's absurd practices. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #64

His critique was of the service. rug Jun 2013 #65

What an asshole Goblinmonger Jun 2013 #67

No, he's an asshole for suggesting this charade is an "investigation". rug Jun 2013 #73

If PZ thinks religion is a waste of time, he shouldn't waste his time with it. struggle4progress Jun 2013 #68

I'm sure he'd love to skepticscott Jun 2013 #70

Why do you imagine Rachel Carson, another scientist, was so interested in DDT? dimbear Jun 2013 #71

Wait, are you saying religion is a poison? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #94