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cbayer

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23. Wow, what an extreme position you have.

Tue Jun 18, 2013, 04:27 PM

Jun 2013

People get whatever messages they want from the books. Some get bigotry and hate. Others get tolerance and love.

My preference is to challenge the first group and support/endorse the second.

I was raised in the church by a minister. I was taught to question myself, ask hard questions of others and be as intellectually honest as I could. I was also taught that the bible is not literal and has to be recognized for the faulty document it is. I see lots of messages that teach tolerance and love. The ones that teach bigotry and hate, I reject.

There are as many flavors of believers as there are believers. To put them all in the same box makes no sense and comes across as very dogmatic.

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Organized Religion is Failing the Gay and Transgender Community [View all] cbayer Jun 2013 OP

so all his/her friends are going to hell if they're not a christian. some friend nt msongs Jun 2013 #1

Where do they say that? cbayer Jun 2013 #2

we are getting there, slowly arely staircase Jun 2013 #3

I agree, but we need more, particularly in less urban areas. cbayer Jun 2013 #4

absolutley, and to be honest my small town rural parish lost some members over this arely staircase Jun 2013 #5

What happened at your local parish? cbayer Jun 2013 #10

members left because of the inclusive approach (just a handful) arely staircase Jun 2013 #25

Good riddance. There will always (sadly) be churches where their bigotry can be coddled cbayer Jun 2013 #28

At least it's consistent. gcomeau Jun 2013 #6

Everyone? Hardly. cbayer Jun 2013 #7

Yes. Everyone. gcomeau Jun 2013 #8

Tell that to all the African Americans who benefitted from the civil rights movement. cbayer Jun 2013 #9

But religion didn't cause it. gcomeau Jun 2013 #11

Your statement was that it has failed everyone. cbayer Jun 2013 #12

My statement remain unchanged. gcomeau Jun 2013 #13

Er, I was replying to that post you made, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. cbayer Jun 2013 #14

I realize your post appeared as result of you pushing the "reply" button. gcomeau Jun 2013 #16

Oh. Sorry. I didn't respond to the statement because it wasn't relevant cbayer Jun 2013 #17

It was entirely about what you were saying. gcomeau Jun 2013 #18

But I wasn't making the argument that religion should be credited for cbayer Jun 2013 #19

Uh-huh... gcomeau Jun 2013 #20

So much dogma, so many words. cbayer Jun 2013 #21

Get back to me when you figure out what dogma is. gcomeau Jun 2013 #24

Nah, I think I will just let you have the last word and wish you adieu. cbayer Jun 2013 #31

Yeah, you seem to do that a lot. gcomeau Jun 2013 #32

So many personal attacks, so little content. trotsky Jun 2013 #26

Or tell it to the white slaveholders and the KKK members who made the CRM necessary. trotsky Jun 2013 #15

It hasn't failed me. arely staircase Jun 2013 #27

In what sense? -eom gcomeau Jun 2013 #29

in finding inner peace and an outward way to live arely staircase Jun 2013 #36

Yeah, about what I thought. gcomeau Jun 2013 #40

my faith teaches me to find common ground with people of other faiths and no faith at all arely staircase Jun 2013 #41

"Your faith"... gcomeau Jun 2013 #42

but to my question arely staircase Jun 2013 #43

Yes. gcomeau Jun 2013 #44

i get great joy from that answer arely staircase Jun 2013 #47

It's because the major religions are inherently bigoted... MellowDem Jun 2013 #22

Wow, what an extreme position you have. cbayer Jun 2013 #23

Again with the personal attacks. trotsky Jun 2013 #30

I'm not putting them all in the same box... MellowDem Jun 2013 #33

It's only a position that requires intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance cbayer Jun 2013 #34

I have made no assumptions of you... MellowDem Jun 2013 #38

Oh, sorry. It seemed apparent that when you said "your position on god", then went on to cbayer Jun 2013 #39

It was the impersonal "your"... MellowDem Jun 2013 #45

I would also argue that one's position on the lack of god/gods is not more credible than either. cbayer Jun 2013 #46

It depends on your preferences... MellowDem Jun 2013 #48

That's cool. But these things get mushy when it comes to areas like love, religion, politics, cbayer Jun 2013 #49

I never claimed that my opinion... MellowDem Jun 2013 #50

I believe all those things are true about you. cbayer Jun 2013 #51

I think we may be missing the author's points here. pinto Jun 2013 #35

Agre with your take on this. cbayer Jun 2013 #37

Well, this wins the prize for Zoeisright Jun 2013 #52